Torog and Hamster can be proud

[Torog]

Howdy Blue Cat,

You state:" Given the choice I think I will remain a kid. "

I expected you to make that choice..I voted for Bush, in 2000,so that there would an adult in the White House,and not a juvenile that was giitin himself into sexual situations,with an intern young enough to be his daughter,while he was on the phone to a field commander in Bosnia.

I voted for Bush in 2004,because while the war on terror rages,we need adults in the White House who will hold the terrorists and the countries that harbor and export them,accountable..and be willing to use any means to bring them to justice or stop em dead in their tracks..and not a child,who will try and beg his way out of trouble.

Have a good one !

[NowhereMan]

but if don't love America..you best leave...

Or what You'll shoot?

well yea
if u try anything funny in fact i will
and not shy about it
america is by no means perfect
but it is the best place you have for a chance at freedom
so smoke on that
you dont want to live here
dont

move to china see how it is there

[F L E S H]

well yea
if u try anything funny in fact i will
and not shy about it
america is by no means perfect
but it is the best place you have for a chance at freedom
so smoke on that
you dont want to live here
dont

move to china see how it is there

Freedom for all!!! But if don't like it, we'll shoot ya!

[BlueCat]

You guys are so trained. If someone even comments on leaving this country you take up arms. I was going to teach in China a few years ago for a 6 month sabbatical. I am reading about the country that is soon to be at the top of the economic food chain. While I like the Chinese culture I am still worried and have other issues, So you guys take this as an opportunity to wave your flag and talk about a blow job again. How lame is that? Who is the one claiming to be adult again? Grow up and open your eyes.
A few years ago we wanted nothing to do with China because of their communist beliefs and their human right violations. Now we have almost as many human right violations and we are selling them whatever they want.

You guys think questioning the government is wrong. Don't chastise me because you don't know your history. Instead of waving your flag and posturing why don't you prove me wrong? I would love that, I want to be wrong. I love my country, but I love its people and not the losers in charge.

They have no interest in helping anyone. We are being used to fill their pockets.
You prove to me our government did not sell arms to the contras. Prove to me our government was not involved in specifically the CIA's overthrow of democratic governments in Guatemala, Brazil, Chile, Guyana, Iran, Indonesia and Congo.

Maybe you can explain Venezuela? Do you know the politics of what is happening there?

Prove the CIA's did not overthrow Iraq's government in 60's and install Saddam.

How about this one?

The CIA training and support of death squads and repressive secret police in Iran, Indonesia, El Salvador, Chile, Guatemala and Vietnam.

All of this so they can make money selling weapons. The very weapons that more often than not kill American soldiers.
Some news channel just did a story about a Bosnian weapons buyer that came over here and bought 100s of 50 mm guns with armor piercing bullets and took them on a plane back home for God's sake.

Instead of all your flag waving bullshit and catch phases PROVE ME WRONG.

If you want to blindly follow some rich assholes while they rape this country and the rest of the world and call it patriotism or Christianity you go ahead.
I will be able to say I did not follow them. I am proud of this. I know there are a hell of a lot of AMERICANS that think just like me so get use to it.

You are so close minded you think because I question and watch the government I am a terrible person. I think you are so illiterate that you blindly follow people you really know nothing about, like those star struck idiots that follow celebrities you think the American Government does no wrong. You do whatever you are told no questions asked.

Yes you are right. You voted for a man that has allowed China to buy our country and large amounts of American Treasury bonds and he has lied to start a war so that our attention is averted. This is what I believe so prove that I am wrong.

You voted for a man that has allowed a country that still reads the communist manifesto to walk in and buy our prize technologies.
You voted for a man that is ignoring the security risks in so much as he even hires a woman with direct family ties to communist leaders and he is ignoring trade secret theft because he and his cronies are making money from it.

Maybe you should read the communist manifesto you could need it soon.

http://www.paulnoll.com/China/Mao/Ch...ao-quotes.html

YES, You voted for a man that has destroyed our creditability in the world and you are so narrow minded you don't see the harm in that.

The leaders of our country are liars and they are getting rich like they always have through war, and arms sells and they are standing on the backs of the young, the old and the poor to do it. If you want to continue the charade you go ahead but don't attack my judgment without Proof that I am wrong.

Keep swallowing the green pill,
I choose the red one.

[nicholasstanko]

Howdy Blue Cat,

You state:" Given the choice I think I will remain a kid. "

I expected you to make that choice..I voted for Bush, in 2000,so that there would an adult in the White House,and not a juvenile that was giitin himself into sexual situations,with an intern young enough to be his daughter,while he was on the phone to a field commander in Bosnia.

I voted for Bush in 2004,because while the war on terror rages,we need adults in the White House who will hold the terrorists and the countries that harbor and export them,accountable..and be willing to use any means to bring them to justice or stop em dead in their tracks..and not a child,who will try and beg his way out of trouble.

Have a good one !

An adult that cant even form coherent sentences!?!? an adult that needs playtime by spending 40% of his presidency on VACATION!?!

an adult that lies and doesnt assume responsibility for the failure of his administration on 9/11?

an adult thats so responsible with money social security is fucked.


an adult that lives up to his promises of not tolerating leaks in his office by NOT FIRING A PERSON HE PROMISED TO FIRE?


i could go on and on, but torog, if youre going to say you voted for an adult that proved to be less than so not once but TWICE....then you have no right to talk about a guy getting a blow job. if i remember correctly...clintons approval is FARRRRRR higher than bush's.


but who gives a fuck? clinton was an asshole too. fuckin democrats.




all hail imaginary choice

[nicholasstanko]

You guys are so trained. If someone even comments on leaving this country you take up arms. I was going to teach in China a few years ago for a 6 month sabbatical. I am reading about the country that is soon to be at the top of the economic food chain. While I like the Chinese culture I am still worried and have other issues, So you guys take this as an opportunity to wave your flag and talk about a blow job again. How lame is that? Who is the one claiming to be adult again? Grow up and open your eyes.
A few years ago we wanted nothing to do with China because of their communist beliefs and their human right violations. Now we have almost as many human right violations and we are selling them whatever they want.

You guys think questioning the government is wrong. Don't chastise me because you don't know your history. Instead of waving your flag and posturing why don't you prove me wrong? I would love that, I want to be wrong. I love my country, but I love its people and not the losers in charge.

They have no interest in helping anyone. We are being used to fill their pockets.
You prove to me our government did not sell arms to the contras. Prove to me our government was not involved in specifically the CIA's overthrow of democratic governments in Guatemala, Brazil, Chile, Guyana, Iran, Indonesia and Congo.

Maybe you can explain Venezuela? Do you know the politics of what is happening there?

Prove the CIA's did not overthrow Iraq's government in 60's and install Saddam.

How about this one?

The CIA training and support of death squads and repressive secret police in Iran, Indonesia, El Salvador, Chile, Guatemala and Vietnam.

All of this so they can make money selling weapons. The very weapons that more often than not kill American soldiers.
Some news channel just did a story about a Bosnian weapons buyer that came over here and bought 100s of 50 mm guns with armor piercing bullets and took them on a plane back home for God's sake.

Instead of all your flag waving bullshit and catch phases PROVE ME WRONG.

If you want to blindly follow some rich assholes while they rape this country and the rest of the world and call it patriotism or Christianity you go ahead.
I will be able to say I did not follow them. I am proud of this. I know there are a hell of a lot of AMERICANS that think just like me so get use to it.

You are so close minded you think because I question and watch the government I am a terrible person. I think you are so illiterate that you blindly follow people you really know nothing about, like those star struck idiots that follow celebrities you think the American Government does no wrong. You do whatever you are told no questions asked.

Yes you are right. You voted for a man that has allowed China to buy our country and large amounts of American Treasury bonds and he has lied to start a war so that our attention is averted. This is what I believe so prove that I am wrong.

You voted for a man that has allowed a country that still reads the communist manifesto to walk in and buy our prize technologies.
You voted for a man that is ignoring the security risks in so much as he even hires a woman with direct family ties to communist leaders and he is ignoring trade secret theft because he and his cronies are making money from it.

Maybe you should read the communist manifesto you could need it soon.

http://www.paulnoll.com/China/Mao/Ch...ao-quotes.html

YES, You voted for a man that has destroyed our creditability in the world and you are so narrow minded you don't see the harm in that.

The leaders of our country are liars and they are getting rich like they always have through war, and arms sells and they are standing on the backs of the young, the old and the poor to do it. If you want to continue the charade you go ahead but don't attack my judgment without Proof that I am wrong.

Keep swallowing the green pill,
I choose the red one.

yeh fuck you guys! lol. but seriously i lived in the bahamas for a few years.

the bahamas gets ALOT of illegal immigrants mostly from haiti and jamaica trying to escape their country because theirs has been fucked up.

im mentioning this because you mention overthrow of democracy. the haitian president aristide was outted and guess what happened? riots and even more devestation. america came, fucked up the country and left without so much as a word and the people still suffer.

all the while they came in droves to nassau and as a result the wages their dropped.

i was just pointing out what consequences there are to letting some guy do whatever he wants. he isnt just fucking up america...he's fucking up smaller countries that cant do ANYTHING about it. so while you guys sit there and cheer bush on, there are people being killed and left homeless because of the thoughtless and seemingly harmless actions of a few.


all hail brutal reality

[BlueCat]

Or how about the adults that OUT a CIA agent when things aren't going their way or how about the liars that under oath knew nothing about said CIA agent?
It seems it was a serious enought issue that Bush wanted to fire whomever was responsible....Hmmmm well what happened? Have the ADULTS been caught in another lie?

[nicholasstanko]

Or how about the adults that OUT a CIA agent when things aren't going their way or how about the liars that under oath knew nothing about said CIA agent?
It seems it was a serious enought issue that Bush wanted to fire whomever was responsible....Hmmmm well what happened? Have the ADULTS been caught in another lie?

get ready...torog will be back any minute to convince us that radical freedom-hating muslims mustve corrupted bush with their evil ways of thinking.


all hail humor in the face of doom

[Fengzi]

get ready...torog will be back any minute to convince us that radical freedom-hating muslims mustve corrupted bush with their evil ways of thinking.


all hail humor in the face of doom

No Nicholass, Toreg will try to convince us that freedom-hating muslims have currupted us with their evil thinking. Don't you know that Bush can do know wrong??

[BlueCat]

Almost all countries have a history of US invasion first military coup then economic set up, it is how the hand full of rich in this country accumulate wealth...
Take Haiti for instance...look at the time line

In 1791, led by Toussaint L'Ouverture, Haiti's slaves rebelled, winning independence from the French. The U. S. fearing the example to its own slave population, refused to recognize Haiti until 1862, imposing an economic embargo instead, not lifted until 1869.

U. S. Marines invaded Haiti in 1915; when the National Assembly refused to approve a U. S.-written constitution permitting foreigners to own property in their country!!!

The U. S. considered the regime of Francois "Papa Doc" Duvalier a bulwark against Communism and supported it generously...remember this creep!? He was a murderer.

The CIA was "involved in a range of support for a range of candidates" according to one intelligence official. This involvement was authorized by President Reagan and the National Security Council.

How about the US involvement lately?
U. S. Support for Anti-Aristide Coup, 1991-1994?

the CIA was financing and training all the important elements of the new military regime, and a Haitian official who supported the coup has reported that US intelligence officers were presenta t military headquarters as the coup was taking place

Under US instruction there was torture and murder in Haiti then the US goes in and takes files to save their own ass.

U. S. military forces in Haiti seized 60,000 pages of documents belonging to death squad, FRAPH, and 100,000 pages from the headquarters of the Haitian army, the FADH. The materials consisted of reports, registers and a variety of written files, as well as video-cassettes, audio-cassettes and photographs of torture sessions....Since then, representatives of the Haitian government have been requesting the return of the documents which are believed to contain invaluable and definitive evidence of human rights violations under the military regime. This evidence could be crucial to the legal process against the murderers and torturers who remain unpunished and at large in Haiti.

They don't want them returned because they are involved