Torog and Hamster can be proud

[Psycho4Bud]

Perhaps you guys are, but i'd have thought you could admit your faults in light of others. Obviously not, so people took it into their own hands. Don't kill the messenger man.

China bad mouthing our human rights record is like if Bill Clinton come out denouncing JFK's sexual conduct while in office. The messenger should have a little credibility. Like I said...again...we are FAR from perfect, but China rates lower than whale shit!

[Button Basher]

It's not about credibility. It's about a fair report of human rights violations (of which the US is clearly in no shortage of, whether they care to admit it or not).

It's not a playground. You can't point at the kid with the big ears to excuse your fat ass.

[nicholasstanko]

Contrary to the popular belief of idiots, china actually saved america's ass during ww2.

ya see, remember how hitler was dangerously close to defeating allied forces? wellllll....guess which country diverted a considerable part of axis forces devoted to contending with china's human wave strategem?


so ya see kids, ou may not have to like a person...but it might be wise to sho at least some respect .


but remember...thats ONLY if you dont want to be an asshole.




all hail ignorance

[Button Basher]

but remember...thats ONLY if you dont want to be an asshole.

That's politics. Whatever your view, however best your intentions, your always an asshole in someone's eyes.

[Psycho4Bud]

Contrary to the popular belief of idiots, china actually saved america's ass during ww2.

ya see, remember how hitler was dangerously close to defeating allied forces? wellllll....guess which country diverted a considerable part of axis forces devoted to contending with china's human wave strategem?


so ya see kids, ou may not have to like a person...but it might be wise to sho at least some respect .


but remember...thats ONLY if you dont want to be an asshole.




all hail ignorance

"Contrary to the popular belief of idiots, china actually saved america's ass during ww2"

Show me a link!

During WW2 China was up to their necks in Japaneese:

The Chinese had no time to prepare. The Japanese attacked on July 7, 1937, falsifying an attack at the Marco Polo Bridge. Japanese troops and warships poured into China, attempting to occupy the five Western provinces and create another state like Manchukuo. They occupied Peking and Shanghai. In December 1937 they took Nanjing, the Kuomintang capital. Crowded with refugees, the Nationalists abandoned Nanjing to its fate at the hands of the Japanese. Over a period of six weeks, hundreds of thousands of Chinese were killed, women were raped, and the city sacked in what became known as the "Rape of Nanjing."

Chiang and his followers relocated to Chunking. By 1939, as war started in Europe, China had been fighting a forgotten war for eight years. There were more than 2,000,000 Chinese casualties, widespread disease and famine. The Japanese declared China conquered, but the reality was that neither side could gain an upper hand. Chiang distrusted the Communists, and sent his army against them as often as he attacked the Japanese.
http://www.worldwar2database.com/html/china.htm

All hail ignorance? I love your historical revisions!

[F L E S H]

Just read another one...

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...cial_tension_2

Rape Spurs Anti-Hispanic Backlash in Ohio By DAN SEWELL, Associated Press Writer
Sat Jul 16, 5:01 PM ET



HAMILTON, Ohio - It started with the spray-painted, misspelled "Rapest" on the house of a Hispanic man accused of sexually assaulting a 9-year-old white girl. Then the house went up in flames in a suspected arson.

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Confrontations, name-calling and threats against Hispanics followed. Men roamed the streets wearing pillowcases with eye holes, and Ku Klux Klansmen in hoods and robes showed up to pass out pamphlets. There were rumors of assaults and beatings.

Now this small Ohio river city's booming Hispanic population is cowed, the streets in their neighborhoods nearly deserted.

Outside the office of the Living Water Ministry, which two months ago drew hundreds of people to its first Cinco de Mayo festival, there is still a smell of charred wood from the June 21 fire that gutted the house next door and caused damage to the outside of the ministry's office.

"Before, the street would be covered with people, people out all over the place," said Sasha Amen, community outreach coordinator for Living Water. "There's a lot of fear now. People are shutting themselves in their homes."

Hamilton has been a hotbed for Hispanic growth in a state that has lagged behind much of the nation in Hispanic population. The number of Hispanics here jumped fivefold in the 1990s, to 1,566, and is now estimated at 4,000 or more in a city of some 61,000.

For the most part, the immigrants had settled in without much controversy in Hamilton, whose mayor in the 1990s was of Cuban descent. But life here was transformed on June 19, when a 9-year-old Caucasian girl was raped, allegedly by a Hispanic man who has apparently fled the city.

"Yes, there is fear," said Ramona Ramirez, who owns a corner deli-supermarket where she says business is off and her bread delivery man is now afraid to come. "They are attacking all the Hispanics, and it is only one person. We don't know what will happen."

Lupe Galvan, a Mexican-born woman who has been here five years, said some neighbors are talking about moving away.

City and community leaders are trying to heal the wounds, beefing up patrols and trying to calm the community, Mayor Don Ryan said Friday. Ryan said authorities are stressing that the rape was "strictly a random act of violence" and not racially motivated.

"We're continuing to be a melting pot in this country," he said. "Assimilating into our culture is tough; I firmly believe that it will take time."

While the anti-Hispanic backlash has stunned many of the immigrants, some say they've felt racial prejudice here before. The Rev. Eustaquio Recalde, a native of Paraguay, says he was often harassed and ridiculed while working a factory job as the lone Hispanic employee.

"I think it's been around," Recalde said. "This was an opportunity for a few people to express it."

Ezra Escudero, executive director of the Ohio Commission on Hispanic/Latino Affairs in Columbus, says Hamilton is not alone in feeling tension in a state where the Hispanic population has doubled to nearly 280,000 since 1990.

"The challenge for the community is whether the tragedy will bring out the best or the worst in people," he said.

Shelly Jarrett Bromberg, an assistant professor of Spanish and Latin American studies at Miami University in Oxford, has helped organize two community forums since the fire. She called the Hamilton unrest an important moment for local Hispanics, churches, police and public officials.

"I think everyone realizes that we need to have a dialogue ... to make the community feel safe and feel that they have a voice," Bromberg said. "I think there are a lot of people who want to make this work out."

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On the Net:

Hamilton: http://www.hamilton-city.org/

Ohio Commission on Hispanic/Latino Affairs: http://ochla.ohio.gov/

[Torog]

I was reading at a Chinese news site and found this paper going around. It has hit the German and Russian news sites too.
It is interesting to read what the rest of the world thinks...
We sure do sound terrible.


The United States has been releasing annually Country Reports on Human Rights Practices, censuring other countries for their human rights situations, but it has turned a blind eye to serious violations of human rights on its own soil. This double standard on human rights issues cannot but meet with strong rejection and opposition worldwide, leaving the United States more and more isolated in the international community...

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...ent_813904.htm

Howdy Blue Cat,

What is it,that you think that me and amsterdam,should be proud of ? We've been going round and round,with both China and Russia,on the issue of human rights and political up-manship,since before I was born,almost 46 years ago..it's the same old,same old,coming from hard-line commies..whose words can rarely,if ever,be trusted.

The 'international community', is almost exclusively anti-American and anti-Jewish and anti-Christian,as well as amoral relativists. They loathe the concept of individual rights and freedom for all. They believe,that if oppression is an aspect of one's culture,that it should be excused,rather than interfere with such a process or state.

Sure,America has it's problems..I ain't gonna deny that..but unlike China,there's hope that real progress can be made,with brutal,hard-line commies...there is no such hope..until they've all been vanquished..one way or another...the same holds true for brutal,fundy islamofascists..whose penalty for drugs,is quite often death or life-long sentences.

Have a good one ....

[F L E S H]

is it me or is it getting really boring takling to Torog? Every post he makes is exactly the same... Hard-line commies, red chinese, russia, islamofascists, anti-American, anti-Jewish, anti-Christian, amoral relativism, individual rights, freedom for all, democracy, oppression......


YAWN

[Torog]

is it me or is it getting really boring takling to Torog? Every post he makes is exactly the same... Hard-line commies, red chinese, russia, islamofascists, anti-American, anti-Jewish, anti-Christian, amoral relativism, individual rights, freedom for all, democracy, oppression......


YAWN

Howdy FLESH,

Lol..yup..I do tend to be repetitive..but repetition is needed for y'all to understand that you need to choose freedom and democracy..rather than taking up the cause of the terrorists,becuase y'all hate Bush and America. It's kinda like potty training,it takes alot of repetition for a kid to finally git it,but it seems that the Left,is still crappin in their pants..and y'all need a dose of repetition,in order to choose freedom and democracy for all..instead of just a few. I hope that someday,y'all can throw away your diapers and grow up..so that we can face the problem of terrorism,together,as adults.

Have a good one !

[F L E S H]

I hope that someday,y'all can throw away your diapers and grow up..so that we can face the problem of terrorism,together,as adults.

That was uncalled for! As far as I know, it's mostly children who repeat the same things over and over again until their parents cave in and give them what they want

I definitely hate Bush, I'll never deny that. But I don't hate the US. As a matter of fact, I like the US quite a bit. But I don't need to justify myself to you.