Stelth Grow Box

[Ish]

I suggest some serious LST

What is LST? i've heard it a few times but can't find any info on what it actually is

[HARDDON]

Low stem training.

You grow the plant with the main stem tied down every inch of the way.

You plant grows horizontally, tied to whatever. Only the secondary grow shoots are exposed to light.

Thus, you keep her super low....as low as a couple of inches.

She grows sideways...when ready to flower, the secondary shoots pop up buds along the path of growth.

I had an LST growing outside...a nice afghan...

Got really high one night and got paranoid and yanked her right outta the earth.

She was almost 3 feet long, yet no more than 12" tall.

[Cam]

So HARDDON, what you mean to say is if I LST my babies, I can keep them under 121 inches tall, but they will be over 3 feet long? I have been worried about growing them all sidways and stuff because of balance issues and space issues. But if I can keep it under 12 inches... damn. So I tie string and hold it down after every node it grows? Does this also help to make the nodes closer together? I would imagen so. And once it hits flower it starts groing to the side? Maybe I could pull this off with one of my plants. Remember that I have a few, so I can try things.

[HARDDON]

You can do this...

Fill your tub with PRO-MIX (the stuff flower houses use).

Get a female...you may need to may 3 such boxes to help your odds...after she grows 3 inchs, start clamping her down. Home Depot sells those metal lawn staples in landscaping section. Just push them into the soil to anchor her.

The top will grow facing the light....let it grow a tad....and take her down again.

Do this over and over and over...

All the while, you can also direct the pattern of the main stem. So you can make it grow in a square, a circle, a funnel or any shape you like.

When she is ready to flower, go to light 12/12 and small buds from the secondary spots will open up and grow up as your buds you will be smoking.

So you will have kinda like a sea of buds. And the doubleing of height effect can be mitigated to a degree.

So....

As soon as she is tall enuff.....stake her to the ground....right behind her top.

And carry this as far as you like. You can even top her and split each new head off to grow in different directions.


***WARNING...Shitty CFL's will impede upon the success of your efforts.

Fuck you know what.....?

I been stoned sitting here since this morning...early....

I gonna go to home depot and buy me one of the containers and then to get some PRO-MIX from the nursery....

I gonna do this myself........

Hell yea...I got something to do today!

Fuck outside work till it gets a little hotter....its only 100F right now.

Then basketball then bike ride....nah i'll get stoned again and blow that one off...

anyhow im gone for the day....i gonna build be an LST bucket and make my own step by step setup for ya....

But wait!

I dont have females....that means i would have to build 3 of them....

FUck that.

I'm just gonna go back to bed.......

Xanax taking me over

[HARDDON]

oh yea...as i am looking at the pic of your setup....

you should get some water heater blanket and line the top of your lid underside.

right now its blue?

not much reflectivity there is it?

you can spray paint it white, but the water heater foil blanket is very refelctive and provides a layer of insulation so your plasstic roof doesnt melt like army men under a magnifying glass.

That was fun to do that wasnt it?

Hmmm.. maybe I will get me some army men too while i am at it

[sheist]

So if you still have 17"......top her or not, you are still gonna have to plan for at least a double of height...that still means forcing flower when approx. 6-8" tall.

so topping at 8" will give me 2 kolas at 17".. as opposed to not, which will give me 1 kola at 17"... so topping will give more yield?

[Cam]

Ok well thanks harddon lol. I'll find ways to stunt their growths. I had to fix the lights in the grow box. They kept falling off the roof no mattter what I did to them to make them stay. So as of right now I have them positioned next to the plants, hopfully they won't grow into the light. Tell me if this is a bad idea...

[Cam]

I have plastic cylenders surounding the lights now so the plants could easly grow into the plant and not get burned.

[Cam]

So HARDDON... looking back at the "claming down" my plant technique... would the nodes grow closer together? Would I be able to fit more leaves and stems in there if I clamped her down? And then if I were to top her at one point, she would already have a whole lot more shoots and stems than if I were to let her grow and then top her? What if I were to clamp her down and bend her into long zigzags? This would grow more main stem (or main kola I think) and still keep the height small, since it is growing to the side rather than straight up. So technicley I should be able to have a lot of plant and hardley any height. Would the clamping down even work durring the flowering stage?

[Ish]

I'm hoping it does work during flowering cos i've just started tying one of my plants down. She's on day 3 of flowering and only just fits in my dark box so i put some pins in the side of the pot and tied some thread round her. She's got 2 kolas and 2 nice shoots goin in a x i'll put some pics up tomorrow when she's in the light again.