Germing seeds and growing is like Monopoly everyone knows how to play but all by different rules. I myself don't presoak seeds ... WHY ? I put them in a wet papertowel. I usa warm water and soak a papertowel and place it in a small throw away glad container ( like tupperware ) and place the seeds in it and another wet papertowel on top and put the lid on and place in a warm area.