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07-12-2005, 03:23 PM #11
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They will have peace keepers...their own military, and police. The Iraqis will be in a position to take care of their own.
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
I think the Gulf War was one of the reasons to protect the oil reserves. After Saddam set fire to all them rigs it was a hell of a mess to clean up.
Shooting unless fired upon is a good theory, but if your in a hostile area and a dude jumps out with an AK...I'll give our people the right to assume! Better than being dead. Tell me, if your neighborhood was surrounded by Canadian troops heavily armed would you burst through your front door with a shotgun? Hell no!
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07-12-2005, 03:38 PM #12
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Then why wasnt that the plan from the get-go? before bush set down with his "mission accomplished" bullshit that wasnt the idea. everyone assumed we could go in there blast the shit to hell and call it a day. AFTER the reports of war dead came in, bush came up with that iraqi soldier stuff.
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
If the soldiers could do that in the first place why was heavy emphasis placed on american troops this whole time? and the gulf war wasnt a hard war at all...the iraqi troops surrendered and retreated in heavy loads. they're all a bunch of pansies. they were there for jobs they didnt care about iraqi sovereignty. you think that putting up what's left of the old soldier regime is going to be a big difference? "Now you boys play nice and dont try that genocide stuff anymore or ill be back"
And im not saying oil isnt important. Hell no! but if the idea you sold was to protect iraqis for freedom then you better have soldiers guardung the oil AND them.
and i have no problem with assumptions...but too many unrestricted assumptions lead to too many civilian casualties. i say we bring back the as-it-happens footage the media introduced and actually got right. no more of this mormon shit where some guy tells us whats going on and we have to believe it. i want my own visual proof.
i wouldnt burst through with a shotgun if canadians were patrolling canadian streets. but thats only because canadians dont have a habit of opressing her people/deserting them at times of war. if say...britain sent her troops and then got some pansy ass canadian army to do the work for her without giving a fuck for the civilians in crossfire...theyd feel the BUK BUK BUK from my ghetto-issued ak-47 piece too.
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07-12-2005, 03:51 PM #13
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with all due respect,the NAVY put up the mission accomplished sign for their pilots returning home.the administration had a huge fight with the captain of that ship about it.for the record the president has never uttered those words.in the samje speech the president,said that we have a long,hard journey ahead with many battles in many places.
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07-12-2005, 04:01 PM #14
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alright im willing to stand corrected on that one.
Originally Posted by amsterdam
but who's foresight saw seven weeks of major combat operations? i dont care if a missle is fired under the guise of "shock and awe" or not its still a deadly missle if it kills people.
sadly, i dont think the iraqis can tell the difference between "major" and regular combat missions anymore.
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07-12-2005, 04:06 PM #15
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i bet when the iraqis ONCE again show the world they mean buisness after the constituion is signed by all,people will sing a different tune.
where are those mass protests against americans in iraq everyday?oh,thats right.
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07-12-2005, 04:14 PM #16
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Originally Posted by amsterdam
I wouldnt be able to tell you. the mainstream media doesnt tell us whats going on, remember?
They might have them (probably do) and they might not. i cant take keith olberman's word for it i need steve the cameraman to do the talking. and i havnt seen ANY iraqis that are living there talk about how THEY feel since the "election" im getting bored of some general telling me how they're holding up. and american-appointed shi'ite puppets dont count.
but dont forget...those same puppets asked for a withdrawal timetable over and over until bush gave in...the support would slide drastically and war talks would be blown right up.
sorry for the pun.
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07-12-2005, 04:24 PM #17
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American appointed Shi'ite puppets? You mean the ones in the delegation that the Iraqi people elected to the President and Prime minister that the elected delegation appointed. No puppets there dude, elected officials!
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07-12-2005, 04:26 PM #18
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not to mention that the person who got elected interim president was not who the administration wanted.
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07-12-2005, 04:27 PM #19
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ill just point out the wonderful choices we have when selecting an american president....
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
oh wait...you said "elected" though...
let me think back....who was george washington running against again?
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07-12-2005, 04:29 PM #20
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we had bush and two other no names to choose from.
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