Terrifyingly Simple

[Torog]

Terrifyingly simple
Calgary Sun ^ | 2005-07-11 | Ezra Levant


Posted on 07/11/2005 4:15:18 AM PDT


The intellectuals of the left tell us that we need to understand Muslim terrorists if we are going to stop them.

That's true. But the left's idea of understanding is an exercise in hiding from the truth, not seeking it.

We ought not to be so ethnocentric, we're told. We should try to look at things from their point of view. We should ask: Have we done something to provoke them? Have we offended or humiliated them? What did we do to cause this attack?

Why did they think we deserved this -- and what can we do to change our own behaviour so we won't deserve it next time?

Can we meet them halfway? We have heard this refrain a thousand times -- including from Jean Chretien. He told the CBC after 9/11, "you cannot exercise your powers to the point of humiliation for the others."

"We're looked upon as being arrogant, self-satisfied, greedy and with no limits," said Chretien, looking thoughtful, imagining he was getting to the root of it.

At the time, Bill Graham said: "I think the prime minister's comments were right on."

Today Graham serves as Paul Martin's foreign minister.

Many leftist pseudo-intellectuals talk that way. The post-modern liberal mind cannot make sense of terrorism -- why would anyone want to kill women and children? What would drive someone to do such things?

Surely, our political system can provide a safe outlet for their grievances. Don't we have departments of multiculturalism? Don't we give foreign aid? Don't we have racial affirmative action?

So: If they're still mad enough at us to bomb us, what did we do wrong?

But that is not getting into the terrorists' mind. That is not emerging from ethnocentrism -- that is burrowing deeper into it, hiding from the reality of things. The post-modern, post-Christian mind does not have the vocabulary to deal with Islamic terrorism.

We do not use the word "evil" anymore, even with apolitical criminals, whose crimes are called sicknesses now, or syndromes, caused by -- what is it this week? society? parents? TV? -- and who need our understanding and accommodation, not our rejection or punishment. All the more so for avowedly political murders like those in London.

Leftists who call for more understanding or dialogue or compromise, are not understanding the Muslim "other." They are projecting themselves onto the terrorists, imagining what it would take to cool themselves off if they were ever that mad about something.

Have a seminar; bring in some professional mediators; do some role playing -- bond.

Such a response does not understand the terrorists. To understand them is simple, if terrifying: Read their writing and listen to their speeches.

They want the world to be ruled by sharia law, where the only constitution is the Qu'ran. They want a theocracy, like Afghanistan was and Iran is, where infidels are killed, or kept in a state of submission, called dhimmitude.

Read Osama bin Laden's speeches, not those of his lawyers and psychologists in the media. Like Hitler's Mein Kampf, bin Laden is plain about his intentions.

There was no half way, no compromise, no win-win possible with Hitler. The Jews didn't do any one thing in particular to him -- he hated their very existence.

The West didn't do any one thing to bin Laden that caused his hate -- other than to live freely and outside his authority.

Sixty-five years ago, Britain understood Hitler was evil, and responded with Spitfires, not psychologists.

Here's hoping Britain today has the same clarity of thought.

Torog Reviewed by Torog on 07-11-2005. Terrifyingly Simple Terrifyingly simple Calgary Sun ^ | 2005-07-11 | Ezra Levant Posted on 07/11/2005 4:15:18 AM PDT The intellectuals of the left tell us that we need to understand Muslim terrorists if we are going to stop them. That's true. But the left's idea of understanding is an exercise in hiding from the truth, not seeking it. Rating: 5

[Psycho4Bud]

Damn, a voice of reason!!!!!

[XTC]

I said it before and I'll say it again. We're making our own enemy hate us more. Osama states to his followers that we will invade a middle Eastern country. So what do we do, overthrow Saddam. We're proving Osama's point. Osama tells his people that Americans could give two shits for the Muslim way of life. What do we do? Flush Korans down toliets, humiliate Detainees and photos are leaked. We're making Osama's job a lot easier.

[Psycho4Bud]

Osama's point is clear and simple; Death to the Jews, Death to the infidels! Convert to HIS definition of Islam or die. Not to hard of a concept to understand!

[F L E S H]

The problem is not about Osama. He's deranged, deserves to be hanged and whatnot, and not many will disagree with that. It's what the majority of Americans think about ALL muslims now that's the problem. Because we're constantly bombarded with the words Islamic terrorrism, people believe that all Muslims are terrorrists.

Now here's all you right-winders saying "right on!" Well, wasn't looking for Osama the first reason all this war started? Did we find him? not yet... Instead, we had a goold ol' time in Iraq, for absolutely no reason, and Osama's still running around.

Congratulations, you've just reminded yourself of what you were supposed to do almost 4 years ago now.

[BlueCat]

My my Torog you are a fickle man...OK the kissy facing is over....you post we should come together in America then you post a thread to farther divide us...and it is more pure bullshit...
Lets look at the actions and beliefs of the right shall we?

How about one of your best known right wingers Jerry Farewell...just as you are doing Falwell blamed the excesses of American liberalism as exemplified by the ACLU, NOW, and pro- choice, feminist and gay groups in general, for the growing distance between God and America.....

hysterical assertions by the wingers that liberals hate America and want the terrorists to win is absurd...AND DIVISIVE

The Taliban/Al Qaida/Hezbollah/Jihadists of the world are the exact embodiment of evil in the liberal mind. They are everything we are against, and against everything we are for....

In fact, they are exactly what we see in the Republican Party...
As the GOP continues to consolidate power -- the creeping theocracy, moralizing, us versus them, embrace of torture, the need to constantly declare jihad on someone, hysterics over football-game nipples, control over "decency" on the airwaves, lyrics censorship, hostility to women freedoms, curtailing of civil liberties, their actions on women rights are deplorable,then theres the death penalty, and they demand to control the culture (TV, movies, music), they rail against rampant sexuality, they seek to spread their ideology via force...Republicans, hate the terrorists because they're Muslim. But aside from that, they've got far more in common than they'll ever admit to themselves.

You Torog have more in common with fundamentalist Islam than the American Left...its time you did some soul searching...

Foreign Policy: Al Qaida/Taliban: World domination - do it our way or we attack
Right Wingers: World domination - do it our way or we attack
Liberals: international joint cooperation in fighting extremist...

Executing Minors: Al Qaida/Taliban: Executing Minors OK
Right wingers: Executing Minors OK its the Texas way...
Liberals: Find this to be a barbaric and embarrassing practice


Pop Culture: Al Qaida/Taliban: Hate it... kill it
Right Wingers: Hate it... ban it...fine it and make some cash
Liberals: Laugh at it... boycott it

Self-image: Al Qaida/Taliban: Belief in their own infallibility
Right Wingers: Belief in their own infallibility
Liberals: Willingness to consider other viewpoints

God:Al Qaida/Taliban: God is on our side and will help us kill our enemies
Right Wing: God is on our side and will help us kill our enemies
Liberals: God may or may not exist and if he does killing would not be on the TO DO list



Leaders:Al Qaida/Taliban: God choose Osama Bin Laden to defeat the Great Satan
Right Wing: God choose George W. Bush to lead us
Liberals: God didn't choose anyone

Use of Force:Al Qaida/Taliban: As a means of propagating a world view
Right Wing: As a means of propagating a world view
Liberals: As a last resort


Bush's War in Iraq:Al Qaida/Taliban: Love it!
Right Wing: Love it!
Liberals: It's a disaster

Press:Al Qaida/Taliban: Control of the Press
Right wingers: Manipulation of the Press
Liberals: Freedom of the Press

Free Speech:Al Qaida/Taliban: Anyone who disagrees with us is an infidel and must be silenced
Right wingers: Anyone who disagrees with us is a traitor and must be silenced,including CIA undercover agents....right Rove?
Liberals: Anyone who disagrees with us is in for a spirited discussion

Individuals:Al Qaida/Taliban: Conform or else
Right Wing: Conform or else
Liberals: Embrace diversity


Cooperation:Al Qaida/Taliban: You're either with us or against us
Right wingers: You're either with us or against us
Liberals: We're all in this together

Tolerance:Al Qaida/Taliban: Death to the infidels
Right wing: Kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity
Liberals: Live and let live

Origins:Al Qaida/Taliban: Universe and man created 6,000 years ago by God
Right Wingers: Universe and man created 6,000 years ago by God
Liberals: The Universe began as we know it at least 14 billion years ago, but hey what do the scientist know...

Leaders:Al Qaida/Taliban: Subservient to will of its leaders
Right wingers: Subservient to will of its leaders
Liberals: Will served by Representative government


Women:Al Qaida/Taliban: A woman's place is in the home
Right wingers: A woman's place is in the home
Liberals: A woman's place is wherever she wants it to be

Marriage:Al Qaida/Taliban: Marriage is only between a man and a woman
Right wingers: Marriage is only between a man and a woman
Liberals: Marriage is between any two people who love each other


Buy your wife and daughter a burka and have a good one...