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	07-07-2005, 02:04 AM #11 Senior Member Senior Member
 DMT in Salvia?I wish to smoke DMT some day. fuck you up. 
 
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	07-07-2005, 02:13 AM #12 Senior Member Senior Member
 DMT in Salvia?Fifty miligrams of 2c-i? 
 Fifty miligrams of 2c-i?!
 
 *bouncy piano vamp, mayor enters stage left*
 
 Say Mayor, have ya heard the news? There's fifty miligrams of 2c-i headed this way! Should be here before the sabbath!
 
 Oh gee, Curly, where'd ya ever glean such glorious information?
 
 I heard it from Black Tar Bart, Mister Mayor! And everyone knows to trust the word of Black Tar Bart!
 
 Well then, Curly, I suppose you'd best help spread the news while I organize a welcome committee!
 
 Gosh mayor, I'm so dog-gone excited I could just... why, I could just...
 
 Yes, Curly, you could just what?
 
 I could just SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGGGGGGGGG, OHHHHHH
 
 *mayor and curly in unison*
 
 Yes we're singing
 and dancing
 and ginger-fairy-prancing
 You love me and 2C-I love youuuuu
 But before we can trip balls we've got ever so much to do!
 
 *return to vamp, other townsfolk wander in*
 
 Heya Curly! Howdy Mayor Birchum! What's all the hullabaloo?
 
 Oh, hello Cowboy Neal! Why, th' mayor and I were just celebrating on account of the good news!
 
 Aw yeah? What good news is that?
 
 Well, why don'tcha sing along and find out!
 
 We buy it
 Supply it
 And then we'll 2C-I it!
 You eat some I'll eat some more with youuuuuu!
 But before we can lose ego we've got oh so much to do!
 
 *other villagers join in elaborately choreographed dance*
 
 Our parents
 They told us
 That drugs would just unfold us
 But what I see tells me that's just not truuuuuuuue
 
 Oh you know that I
 (you know that I)
 
 Could tell no lie
 (no fucking lie!)
 
 Oh, twooooooo seeeee
 EYYYYYEEEEE LOOOOOVVE
 YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
 
 *orchestra flourishes*
 
 *curtain*
 
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	07-07-2005, 03:27 AM #13 Senior Member Senior Member
 DMT in Salvia?Wow, spontaneous song and dance, and I though that only happened in the movies. 
 
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	07-07-2005, 03:29 AM #14 Senior Member Senior Member
 DMT in Salvia?clap clap clap and so on. 
 
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	07-07-2005, 03:30 AM #15 Senior Member Senior Member
 DMT in Salvia?^ by the way i wasn't tryin to be an ass, that really was good =) 
 
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	07-07-2005, 04:03 AM #16 Senior Member Senior Member
 DMT in Salvia?Man what the hell was I DOING?? 
 
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	07-07-2005, 04:07 AM #17 Senior Member Senior Member
 DMT in Salvia?lol, i dunno but it was pretty fuckin funny. 
 
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	07-07-2005, 04:42 AM #18 Senior Member Senior Member
 DMT in Salvia?I'm impressed. 
 
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	07-07-2005, 03:11 PM #19 Senior Member Senior Member
 DMT in Salvia?wow dick..... 
 
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	07-07-2005, 04:08 PM #20 Senior Member Senior Member
 DMT in Salvia?[CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE CHEMICAL LABORATORY OF THE u. s DEPART- 
 MENT O F AGRICULTURE, NO. 21 ]
 THE CHEIllSTRY OF THE CACTACEAE.??
 BS ERVIN E?? EWELL.
 Receibed M q 13 1396
 I. AN HISTORICAL R E S ~ M E AND PRELIMINARY NOTE.
 HERE is probably no more interesting family of plants than T the Cactaceae. This interest is manifest among civilized
 and uncivilized peoples, old and young, scientific and unscien-
 tific. If there is one that does not feel this interest ; if there is
 one that is not inspired with awe at the mere contemplation of
 the weird forms assumed by the numerous species of this great
 order, which inciudes giants and the tiniest dwarfs : if there is
 one that is not moved by the mysterious beauty of an opening
 blossom of the ??night-blooming cereus,? then let that one
 swallow one or more of the little buttons that we shall exhibit
 to you this evening and note whether or not he is susceptible to
 the more subtle and more powerful influence that he mill find
 working from within. There is scarcely a housewife in the land
 that pretends to maintain a conservatory or a window garden
 without numbering one or more cacti in her collection. She
 would have no hesitation about pronouncing any member of the
 order a cactus, so marked are their characteristics ; yet, when it
 comes to a more minute study for purposes of classification,
 botanists who have spent years in studying them are still dis-
 puting about them and have filled the literature of the subject
 with a host of synonymous names.
 When we examine the chemical side of the subject, we find
 that our knowledge is still more imperfect. The fact that many
 of these plants are used for food and that their juices are drunk
 in place of water by the travellers in the arid regions where they
 grow in abundance, has caused them to be regarded as devoid
 of chemical constituents of greater importance than those that
 are to be expected in any of the innocent plants of humid
 regions. Various species have been used medicinally in the
 countries in which they grow. Cerezis grandifiorzcs and a few
 allied species have attained a reputatioii in medical practice
 1 An abstract of this paper was read before the Washingtou Sectiou of the American
 Chemical Society, Apn19 1896
 CHEMISTRY OF THE CACTACEAE. 625
 among peoples more advanced in the scale of civilization, and
 have consequently been made the subject of some chemical
 investigation. Their fresh juices produce irritation of the skin
 when locally applied, and preparations of them are administered
 internally as cardiac stimulants and for other purposes. The
 first article published in this country on the subject seems to
 have been one by A. F. Pattee, which appeared in the Boston
 Medical and Surgical journal in 1867. 0. M. Meyers published
 an article in the New York Medical journal in 1891, in which he
 called attention to the value as a heart tonic of a preparation of
 Cereus grandiforris called ?? ?? cactina. ? This was claimed to be
 the active principle of the drug, but it was not stated whether it
 was alkaloidal, glucosidal, or of some other nature. Numerous
 papers quickly followed, containing reports of clinical experi-
 ments with this and other preparations of the drug. Some of
 these papers included brief reports of chemical investigations.
 Boinet and Boy-Tessier reported the finding of an alkaloid in
 this species.?? G. Sharp?? stated that he was unable to find
 either alkaloid or glucoside in the drug, and ascribed any active
 properties that it may have to the resin that it contains. He
 failed to obtain any marked effect from the drug itself, and
 took doses of forty and one hundred of the cactus pills, pre-
 pared from CactusMexicana, without result. Thisis practically all
 that has been done in the way of chemical investigation of this
 class of plants in recent years, excepting the species that we are
 to consider and a few species closely related thereto.
 As far as I have been able to learn, three groups of persons
 have been especially active in the scientific study of the Cac-
 taceae during the last decade : First, a group of persons at Ber-
 lin, the center of which is Dr. L. Lewin, whose earlier work has
 been reported in this country in a pamphlet published by Parke,
 Davis & Co., of Detroit, and in the Therapeutic Gazette for 1888 ;
 second, a group of persons at the Pharmacological Institute of
 the University of Leipsic, where the work has been conducted
 by Dr. Arthur Heffter ; third, a group of persons in this city,
 centering in the Bureau of American Ethnology, and including
 1 Bulletin &&a1 de Thevupeutique, 1891, 121, 343-349.
 2 London Praclifionw, 1894.
 626 ERVIN E. EWELI,.
 as associates the Division of Chemistry of the Department of
 Agriculture for chemical studies, Drs. Prentiss and Morgan for
 the study of physiological properties, and the Botanical Division
 of the Department of Agriculture for the settlement of botanical
 questions. These more recent investigations have been directed
 toward one or more species of cacti that are used by the hmeri-
 can Indians for ceremonial and medicinal purposes. This sub-
 stance, known as ??mescal buttons ? in the commerce of our
 southwestern border and in Mexico as peyote or pelZoole, has been
 of commercial and medicinal importance in Mexico for many
 years, being mentioned by Spanish writers as early as 1790. It
 was included in the Mexican Pharmacopoeia of 1842, but has
 been omitted from the later editions. The species furnishing
 the ?? ( mescal buttons ? is Anhalonium Lez~hii (Hennings) , for
 which the synonymous names are .4nhaloniicm Williamsii, var. ,
 Lewiniiand Lophophora WiZliamsii, var., Leadnii. There seems to
 be evidence that Anhalonium Williamsii also contributes to the
 supply of This latter species is
 likewise burdened with an abundance of names, being known
 among botanists by the names of Echizocactus Willianzsii and
 Lopho@hora WilZiamsii, in addition to the one just used to des-
 ignate it.
 buttons ? by
 the Indians, I quote, by permission, from a recent article on the
 subject by hIr. James Mooney of the Bureau of American
 Ethnology :
 ??About five years ago, while making investigations among
 the Kiowa Indians on behalf of the Bureau of Ethnology, the
 attention of the writer was directed to the ceremonial use of a
 plant for which were claimed wonderful medical and psychologic
 properties. So numerous and important are its medical applica-
 tions, and so exhilarating and glorious its effect, according to
 the statements of the natives, that it is regarded as the vegetable
 incarnation of a deity, and the ceremonial eating of the plant
 has become the great religious rite of all the tribes of the south-
 ern plains. +
 mescal buttons ? and pellote.
 For a detailed account of the use of the dried
 # # # # + + * +
 Thevapeutrc Gazefte, Jauii. 1 The Mescal Plant and Ceremony. by James Mooney.
 ary, 1896
 CHEMISTRY OF THE CACTACEAE. 627
 ??As a matter of fact, there are several varieties, probably all
 of the same genus, used by the Indians in a ceremonial way.
 The explorer Lumholtz mentions three varieties among the
 Tarahumari of northern Mexico, (see his article in Scm??bner??s
 Magazine for October, 1894). A different sort, from the lower
 Rio Grande, is used by the Kiowas and associated tribes, and
 a smaller variety is found among the Mescalero Apaches of
 eastern New Mexico. In each language it has a different name,
 usually referring to the prickles. Among the Kiowas it was
 se6i; among the Comanches, wokowi ; with the Mescaleros, ho ;
 and with the Tarahumaris, hikori. The traders of the Indian
 Territory commonly call it mescal, although it must not be con-
 founded with another mescal in Arizona, the Agave, from
 which the Apaches prepare an intoxicating drink. The local
 Mexican name upon the Rio Grande is peyote or peZlote, from
 the old Aztec name peyotl.
 ?? The use of the plant for medical and religious purposes is
 probably as ancient as the Indian occupancy of the region over
 which it grows. There is evidence that the ceremonial rite was
 known to all the tribes from the Arkansas to the valley of
 Mexico, and from the Sierra Madre to the coast. The Mesca-
 lero Apaches take their name from it. Personal inquiry among
 the Navajos and Mokis proved that they had no knowledge
 of it.
 I ?? In proportion as the plant was held sacred by the Indians,
 so it was regarded by the early missionaries as the direct inven-
 tion of the devil, and the eating of the peyote was made a crime
 equal in enormity to the eating of human flesh. From the
 beginning it has been condemned without investigation, and
 even under the present system severe penalties have been
 threatened and inflicted against Indians using it or having it
 in their possession. Notwithstanding this, practically all the
 men of the Southern Plains tribes eat it habitually in the cere-
 mony, and find no difficulty in procuring all they can pay for.
 In spite of its universal use and the constant assertion of the
 Indians that the plant is a valuable medicine and the ceremony
 a beautiful religious rite, no agency physician, post surgeon,
 628 ERVIN E. EWELL.
 missionary, or teacher-with a single exception-has ever tested
 the plant or witnessed the ceremony.
 ??A detailed account of mythology, history and sacred ritual
 in connection with the mescal would fill a volume. Such an
 account, to be published eventually by the Bureau of Ethnology,
 the writer is now preparing, as the result of several years of
 field study among the Southern Plains tribes.
 ???? The ceremony occupies from twelve to fourteen hours,
 beginning about nine or ten o??clock and lasting sometimes until
 nearly noon the next day. Saturday night is now the time
 usually selected, in deference to the white man??s idea of Sunday
 as a sacred day and a day of rest. The worshippers sit in a
 circle around the inside of the sacred tipi, with a fire blazing in
 the center. The exercises open with a prayer by the leader,
 who then hands each man four mescals, which he takes and eats
 in quick succession, first plucking out the small tufts of down
 from the center. In eating, the dry mescal is first chewed in
 the mouth, then rolled into a large pellet between the hands,
 and swallowed, the man rubbing his breast and the back of his
 neck at the same time to aid the descent. After the first round
 the leader takes the rattle, while his assistants take the drum,
 and together they sing the first song four times, with full voices,
 at the same time beating the drum and shaking the rattle with
 all the strength of their arms. The drum and rattle are then
 handed to the next couple, and so the song goes on rouud and
 round the circle-with only a break for the baptismal ceremony
 at midnight, and another for the daylight ceremony-until per-
 haps nine o??clock the next morning. Then the instruments are
 passed out of the tipi, the sacred foods are eaten, and the cere-
 mony is at an end. At midnight a vessel of water is passed
 around, and each takes a drink and sprinkles a few drops upon
 his head. Up to this hour no one has moved from his position,
 sitting cross-legged upon the ground and with no support for
 his back, but now any one is at liberty to go out and walk about
 for a while and return again. Few, howover, do this, as it is
 considered a sign of weakness. The sacred food at the close
 of the ceremony consists of parched corn in sweetened water ;
 rice or other boiled grain ; boiled fruit, usually now prunes or
 CHEMISTRY OF THE CACTACEAE. 629
 dried apples ; and dried meat pounded up with sugar. Every
 person takes a little of each, first taking a drink of water toclear
 his mouth.
 ??After midnight the leader passes the mescal around again,
 giving to each man as many as he may call for. On this second
 round I have frequently seen a man call for ten and eat them one
 after the other as rapidly as he could chew. They continue to
 eat at intervals until the close. There is much spitting, and
 probably but little of the juice is swallowed. Every one smokes
 hand-made cigarettes, the smoke being regarded as a sacred
 incense. At intervals some fervent devotee will break out into
 an earnest prayer, stretching his hands out toward the fire and
 the sacred mescal the while. For the rest of the time, when not
 singing the song and handling the drum or rattle with all his
 strength, he sits quietly with his blanket drawn about him and
 his eyes fixed upon the sacred mescal in the center, or perhaps
 with his eyes shut and apparently dozing. Hemust be instantly
 ready, however, when his turn comes at the song, or to make a
 prayer at the request of some one present, so that it is apparent
 that the senses are always on the alert and under control of the
 will.
 ?? There is no preliminary preparation, such as by fasting or
 the sweat-bath, and supper is eaten as usual before going in.
 The dinner, which is given an hour or tw*o after the ceremony,
 is always as elaborate a feast as the host can provide. Therest
 of the day is spent in gossiping, smoking, and singing the new
 songs, until it is time to return home. They go to bed at the
 usual time, and are generally up at the usual time the next
 morning. No salt is used in the food until the day after the
 ceremony.
 ??As a rule, only men take part in the regular ceremony, but
 sick women and children are brought in, and, after prayers for
 their recovery, are allowed to eat one or more mescals prepared
 for them by the priest.?
 I t is to Mr. Mooney that we are indebted for the commence-
 ment of the scientific study of the drug in this country. On his
 return in the summer of 1894, from a prolonged residence among
 the tribes that use the drug, he brought with him a considerable
 630 ERVIN E. EWELL.
 quantity of the dried buttons? for use in scientific investiga-
 tions. A portion of this material was turned over to Dr. H . U??.
 Wiley, Chief of the Division of Chemistry of the Department of
 Agriculture, for a study of its chemical constituents. This task
 was assigned to the author by Dr. Wiley in September, 1894.
 The only literature of the subject at hand at that time was the
 article published by Dr. Lewin in 1888,?? in which he announced
 the discovery and name, anhalonin, of an alkaloid in Ax-
 haZonium Lewinii, a name that had been given to the plant
 furnishing ??mescal buttons I ?? by Hennings, the botanist to
 whom Lewin intrusted the botanical identification of the crude
 material in which the alkaloid was found. Work had hardly
 been begun in the laboratory of the Department of Agriculture
 with the result of the separation of a considerable portion of
 Lewin??s anhalonin, when Dr. Heffter2 published an article in
 which he reported the results of a chemical study of four species
 of the genus Anhalonium : A. fissurafuiii, A. jrismaticum, A.
 WiZZiamsii, A . Lewinii. This was quickly followed by a report
 by Lewin of the continuation of his experiments mentioned
 above. a
 For the aid of the American readers who may feel an interest
 in this subject, the writer has prepared the following table, in
 which the results of the investigations, hitherto reported, of the
 three more thoroughly studied species of anhalonium, are pre-
 sented in a convenient form for reference and coniparison :
 1 Archiv fiir ex&&menielle Pathologie utid Pharmakoiogie, 1888, 14, 401 ; Thwapeutrc
 Gazette. 1888, p. 232, and in a pamphlet issued by Parke, Davis 8; Co.. of Detroit. the
 same being a reprint from ?? The Pharmacology of the Newer Materia Medica.?
 2 .4rchiv fi2v expperimentelle Pathologie tend Pharmakologre. 1894, 34, 65-56.
 8 Avchivfiir experimentelle Pathologif aird Phavmakologie. 1894. 34, 374-391
 
 ERVIS E. EWELL.
 CHEMISTRY OF THE CACTACEAE. 633
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 634 ERVIX E. EWELL.
 CHEMISTRY OF T H E CACTACEAE. 635
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 636 ERVIN E. EWELL.
 CHEMISTRY OF THE CACTACEAE. 637
 63 8 ERVIN E. EWELL.
 All of the bases mentioned in the above table are possessed of
 marked physiological properties, and produce death when
 administered to the lower animals in sufficient doses. The
 nature and extent of the physiological activity of these alkaloids
 as determined by the experiments of Lewin and Heffter, are
 shown in the following table :
 
 640 ERVIN E . EWELL.
 
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 CHEMISTRY OF THE CACTACEAE. 64 1
 The materials used by Lewin in his experiments reported in
 1894 were prepared in the laboratory of E. Merck & Co., of
 Darmstadt. I n their report to Lewin, mention was made of the
 presence of still a third base in the drug, which forms a crystal-
 lizable hydrochlorate that is easily soluble in cold water. It
 seems quite possible that the substance described under the
 name of amorphous anhalonin hydrochlorate? was a mixture
 of alkaloidal hydrochlorates.
 Heffter also made a cursory examination of a small sample of
 A~~~aZoniumprismaticum and found it to contain a sniall per-
 centage of alkaloidal constituents possessing high physiological
 activity.
 In the article published by Lewin, in 1894, and cited above,
 mention is made of a partial analysis of a sample of Anhalonium
 Jourdanianum made in 1889 with the result of the separation of
 an alkaloid that formed a crystalline hydrochlorate and resem-
 bled anhalonin in its characteristic color-reaction as well as the
 nature of its physiological action upon frogs. In the same ar-
 ticle report is also made of an examination of Anhalonium
 WiZZiamsii, several species of Mammillaria, and one species of
 Opuntia. The study of A . WiZZiamsii, which was made in 1891,
 resulted in the separation of an alkaloid that caused an increase
 of reflex excitability, and marked tetanus when administered to
 frogs. The tendency of the tetanic condition to continue for
 several days was very pronounced. The milky juices yielded
 by MamijZaria polythele, M. centn??nrrha var. PachytheZe, M. juZ-
 chra, Haw. rcnd M. arietina, were found to possess no poisonous
 properties. Mammillaria uberiformis was found to be poison-
 ous. RhipsaZis conferta, a member of the Opuntia group, yielded
 a slimy juice that was difficultly soluble in water. When this
 was administered to frogs by hypodermic injection a paralysis
 of the voluntary muscles was produced, which was followed by
 heart failure.
 It is very apparent from the results of the investigations
 which I have thus briefly summarized, that the Cactaceae is a
 group of plants worthy the attention of the botanist, the chem-
 ist, the pharmacologist, the physician, and the toxicologist, as
 well as the attention of the entire mass of nature-loving human-
 642 CHEMISTRT O F THE C.\C??l??XCEAE.
 ity. It is to be hoped that American scientistswill not leave the
 task of exploring this promising field entirely to workers beyond
 the sea, considering our proximity to much of the necessary
 material.
 I t is the purpose of the present article to bring the subject to
 the attention of American investigators and to briefly outline
 the work that has been done in :he laboratory of the U. S.
 Department of Agriculture. Mescal buttons,? thedried, com-
 mercial form of Anhaloizium Lewinii, have served as the start-
 ing point for all our investigations. Fig. I shows the appear-
 ance of the ?? ?? buttons? when viewed upon the top, upon the
 edge, and upon the under side.
 Figs. 2 , 3, 4, and 5, show the appearance of living specimens
 of Ayzhalonium Lewizii, A. Williamsii, A. &miraturn, and A .
 prismaticurn, respectively, the illustrations being prepared from
 photographs made by the author from plants growing in the
 National Botanical Gardens.
 An alkaloid corresponding in its properties to Lewin??s anha-
 lonin has been prepared in a considerable amount and in a high
 state of purity. Fig. 6 shows the appearance of the bottom of a
 crystallizing dish in which the hydrochlorate was crystallized
 from alcohol by spontaneous evaporation over sulphuric acid in
 a vacuum.
 A second and, very recently, a third alkaloid have been sepa-
 rated from the drug. All three of these alkaloidal preparations
 have been subjected to physiological tests by Drs. Prentiss and
 Morgan, and the results of their investigations will soon be pub-
 lished in the Medical Record. They have recently published
 two articles upon the physiological action and therapeutic value
 of the crude drug in the Therapeutic Gazette.?? As for the third
 alkaloid separated, let it suffice to say for the present that it has
 been found to be much stronger than any alkaloid hitherto sepa-
 rated froni any member of the genus Anhalonium, as 0.02-0.025
 gram of its hydrochlorate per kilo or body weight is fatal to rab-
 bits, and 0.03 gram per kilo of body weight suffices to kill a full
 grown guinea-pig. The hydrochlorate of this alkaloid crystal-
 lizes in nodular groups of radiating needles. Fig. 7 was made
 1 Sept.. 789j, and Jan , r896.
 REFINING LIXIVIATION SULPHIDES. 643
 from a photograph of crystals obtained by the spontaneous
 evaporation of a solution of the alkaloidal salt in ninety per cent.
 alcohol.
 An examination of the resinous constituents of the plant is in
 progress, as well as a study of those of its constituents that are
 of interest to the vegetable physiologist rather than to the
 therapeutist.
 A more extended report 6f this work is reserved for a future
 paper. Before closing this preliminary announcement, how-
 ever, I wish to express my indebtedness to Dr. Wiley for much
 greatly appreciated assistance in the work, and to Dr. Brown for
 the aid that he very kindly rendered me in the preparation of
 the photographs used for the illustration of the article. I also
 desire to express my appreciation of the patience with which
 both Dr. Wiley and the gentlemen of the Bureau of Ethnology
 have awaited the progress of this work, which has been
 largely limited to spare moments not required by other duties.
 WASHINGTON, D. C., May 11, 1896.
 THE SULPHURIC ACID PROCESS OF REFINING LIXIVI-
 ATION SULPHIDES.'
 BY FREDERIC P. DEWEY,
 Received May 91, 1896.
 HE time is fast approaching when more chemistry must be T used in the extraction of the preciousmetalsin the United
 States. The chief objections to chemical methods are the tech-
 nical skill required in the management, the higher grade of labor
 necessary and the time required to turn out product, thus lock-
 ing up large amounts of capital ; but these difficulties are becom-
 ing less applicable all the time. Then too, the wonderful suc-
 cess attained in this country in extracting the precious metals
 by smelting with lead has retarded the application of chemical
 met hods.
 The chemical process of extracting silver by lixiviating, or
 leaching its ores with solution of hyposulphite of sodium, was
 introduced by von Patera in 1858, and has been variously
 improved, notably by the substitution of the calcium salt for
 Read before the Washington Section of the American Chemical Society, March xz,
 1896.
 
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