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08-26-2005, 10:57 AM #31
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DMT in Salvia?
i was looking to see if i could find out if there is dmt in salvia and found this....sounds like a cool job
"Currently, Dennis McKenna is working with the Heffter Organization (http://www.heffter.org) on several projects. He will be working to find out if the actual isolate of Salvia divinorum, Salvinorin-A, is neurotoxic (as some have feared), or neuroprotective (as many now are thinking). He has been working with the UDV, in Brazil, to help identify any long-term side-effects (positive or negative) of chronic Ayahuasca use. And, he is continuing to search for more psychoactive drugs, for therapeutic and mental exploratory uses."
but i found out that
the chemical that makes you trip is salvinorin...NOT DMT
here generally what i found out in small points.
-1982 the chemical salvinorin was isolated from the plant in Mexico.
-2 years later they found the same chemical in america along with its "desacetyl derivative"(<--WTF??)â??naming these divinorum A and divinorum B. the guy who isolated they got name priority and called them salvinorin A and salvinorin B
-he later discovered Salvinorin C
-Later experiments by Jonathan Ott noted a 100 microgram threshold dose of salvinorin A and that there was definite psychoactivity
-B and C to this day have never been properly tested on humans...but it is speculated that salvinorin Câ??which appears in the plant at only about 10% the amount of salvinorin Aâ??may be even more potent
-B is speculated to be inactive....
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08-26-2005, 07:26 PM #32
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DMT in Salvia?
That much I knew, I was just wondering if there are trace amounts of DMT ( Not enough to be active.) in salvia divinorum as well because I thought I remembered reading that in the past. I'm pretty sure there isn't any though, as i have been unable to find any documentation that suggests there is.but i found out that
the chemical that makes you trip is salvinorin...NOT DMT
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08-26-2005, 08:23 PM #33
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DMT in Salvia?
Delta, could you please quit posting long articles that have nothing to do with the subject at hand, in the mistaken belief that you are impressing someone? Feel up to a flame war? Choose the topic. By the way, has anyone heard from Dick Justice, I haven't heard from him in a while.
\"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will, within limits drawn by the equal rights of others. I do not add \"within the limits of the law\', because law if often but the tyrant\'s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.\"-Thomas Jefferson.
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08-27-2005, 05:39 AM #34
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DMT in Salvia?
Holy canoley an old fashioned showdown!? You've got balls jaysin, real grade a testicles.
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08-27-2005, 05:41 AM #35
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DMT in Salvia?
Pretty sure there's not but you can always check out Daniel Siebert's site for the info. I read up on it a lot before I tried it:
Originally Posted by Edgar
http://www.sagewisdom.org
Like I said, I'm pretty sure there is no other known psychoactive in SD besides salvinorin, they've been looking for one for twenty years or so.
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08-28-2005, 03:29 AM #36
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DMT in Salvia?
Yeah, I've got balls, but more importantly, I have the knowledge.
\"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will, within limits drawn by the equal rights of others. I do not add \"within the limits of the law\', because law if often but the tyrant\'s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.\"-Thomas Jefferson.
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