thanks for the input Zandor...i jut germed 4 new seeds in wet paper towels and they all germed in 24 hrs, i planted them in a mix of 50% perlite 50% organic potting soil, 1/2 inch down in 16 oz clear plastic cups with holes in the bottom for drainage. the vlear cups are great, i can see the moisture level of the soil and eventually the roots. i am just letting them chill in my closet grow room, about 3' tall, 3' wide, 2.5' deep, which is lined with emergency blankets from wal mart. right now i just have a 33 watt warm white 2' flouro about a foot above them till the seedlings pop thru. i stretched some saran wrap over the top of the cups with a hole for ventilation. temp is about 75-80 in the room. when the seeds pop thru i have 120 watts from CFLs and the 2' flouro, a mix of "daylight" and warm white i will put like 3-5" away from the seedlings so i dont burn them, move the mcloser if i have stretch issues. keeping my fingers crossed to see them pop thru, i have some organic fertilizer i'm planning on using 2 weeks in. i'm trying not to plan further ahead yet in case these die too