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07-01-2005, 07:57 AM #12Senior Member
I GOT A TICKET!! HELP!!!?!?!
It appears your speed was determined with VASCAR - note box 52 is blank; your speed wasn't determined from merely following; am pretty sure PA requires 1/4 mile, but this is a mute issue since VASCAR appears to have been used...
VASCAR done visually with aid of a computer (a glorified calculator quite really) to calculate the speed. The officer timed how long it took your vehicle to travel from one point to another - in Pennsylvania, those two points will most typically be two white lines painted across the road ...
In the case of your ticket, it appears those two points (likely white lines across the road) were approx 125 feet apart; roughly 0.024 mile (box 53) - your vehicle traversed the two points in 1.79 seconds (box 54) - the officer presses a button to start and again to stop - the computer than simply takes the 2 numbers (distance and time) to calculate your speed; the speed shown on your ticket appears correct based on the figures given in box 53 and 54.
In PA, there's a 10 mph leeway for VASCAR - so for practical purposes, an officer in PA using VASCAR (local police in PA aren't permitted to use radar, lidar, etc; this may change soon though) won't bother with any vehicle traveling within 15 miles of the speed limit - reason is that the timing aspect is manual; at 15+ over, even if the officer's reflexes is terrible, the ticket will stand; in your situation, even if the officer was off by around a half-second (very unlikely), your speed would still be calculated at over 35 (25 mph + 10 mph leeway).
Your options are limited ... you could drive to the location where it happened and measure the distance between the two white lines - likely it's going to be accurate so it's a longshot ... a more realistic thing to check is was there a speed limit sign near by and was it clear visable ... if the speed limit sign wasn't nearby and/or obscured, then you've got something to work with - unposted speed limits under 55 mph are unenforceable; an officer can still issue a ticket though (ie. driving too fast for conditions, etc) - rare, and mostly only if the driver admits speeding.
If the sign appears to be near the white lines (I'm assuming that's what was used - if not, you'll need to inquire what two points were used, such as landmarks, trees, etc) and is clearly visable (and in good condition; if not, you may have something), then your next step is to check whether the street is owned by the munipality or the state - most likely it's not owned by the state, but if it is, then it's likely the sign was posted without the proper studies, etc.
It's late ... but I'm sure others here may have some ideas of things to check on ...
It may be worth fighting the ticket anyways if you have a good feeling the officer (appears from the ticket to be the police chief; I really hate one full-timer police depts since they often tend to just to run speedtraps and do little else) won't show up; protest to waste the police chief's time.
Here's a link that may be of interest regarding the police chief, assuming it's the same person:
"...Heather Burnsworth told council Monday she may file a written complaint with the borough against Michael Garlowich, police chief, because she feels he was 'confrontational' in the way he handled an ATV violation against her son on April 23..."
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/dail.../s_335089.html
Finally, I've attached what I think is picture of the police chief - does he look familiar LOL!
http://www.iplayoutside.com/images/v...3/pic-0005.jpg
Ron
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