Thank You all. I couldn't have done it without the advice from you all and everyone else that post replies to threads. Well here is a pic of my second grow in veg state under 80w of cool white flouros. You think they might react well to the 800 watts of HPS that i just introduced to them? Oh and becareful when using sharp scissors and being blasted at the same time. I had no band-aids so i had to imprevise. HAPPY GROWIN!!!!!!!!!!