~ Honey * OIL ~

[Tacit]

you can do it with leaves but the amount of oil is low in comparison to dank. the better the bud/herb the more oil. I dont even smoke my bud anymore. i extract all the bud I get and it last me twice as long. When you roast a dove (joint) or smoke it from a pipe or any way that involves burning with open flame you lose about 45 percent of the thc. it gets burned up before you can inhale it and you dont get as much thc. I'm not guessing. pharmacies have proven that with research for me. Not a very effecient way to get high if you ask me. But over all if your having a good time getting high thats all that really matters anyway, no matter how you get there.

[Tacit]

for all you who dont know what we are talking about. canna butter is waht you get when you sate' (sp?) bud in butter just enough to heat it up not brown it, only nice and hot. since thc is a oil based chemical it transfers to the butter (about 60% of it) and then you eat it any way you want. one good thing about eating thc is that it passes through your liver and causes your liver to produce certain chemicals that help increase your high a little more.

[KillaBuzz]

no no, i think we all get the cannabutter. i wuz talkin bout this
"I have successfully extracted the oil many times but I am just recently trying to rotate all the lesser cannabinoids and cannabinols into thc and the existing thc into the most active isomer, delta-9-thc. I need to know if the oil that I have been extracting the butane way is pure enough to skip the ether purification step and go right to the sulfuric acid isomerization part? Anyone out there know what I am talking about?"

[Tacit]

sorry, what i was talking about was the oil the I have extracted using the butane method. Its good and gets you really high with just two or so hits. but there is a way to increase the potency anywhere from 2 to 9 times the strength... Super THC! that way you really only need to take one hit to get really, really high! the only thing is that its a little involved, chemistry wise that is. and there are a couple of purification steps that I would like to skip if I dont need to purify the oil I have already. the method I learned for increasing the potency starts with extracting the oil using acetone then refining the oil in another couple steps. I was wanted to find out if the oil I have been getting from the butane, not the acetone, extraction method is pure enough to skip the purification steps you have to do when you use the acetone method. I know the oil I get using the butane method is more pure than if I used the acetone method but I dont know how much more.

[Tacit]

never mind I just found the information i needed. thanks to all anyway.

[Tacit]

by the way this link provides the information about how the butane (supercritical fluid extraction) method works. http://sunny.vemt.bme.hu/sfe/angol/supercritical.html

[Lola]

poop

[Mole2k4]

Well, obviously.
The more times, you filter it, the more potent it will be, because your removing more of the waste.
So, your not actually increasing the hit, just refining it.
For example.
A really bad one, but all I can think of.
If you have a gram of coke.
and add half a gram of teething.
You still have a gram of good coke albeit mixed with half a gram of teething powder.
If you have 1.5grams of coke (with teething powder) and take out the teething powder.
You still have a gram of coke. but technically, your taking less, so the potency has "increased".
Dont make sense, but yeah, more you refine it, the less you have, but the more concentrate, THATS THE WORD!, the more concentrated it is.

[Tacit]

Well, obviously.
The more times, you filter it, the more potent it will be, because your removing more of the waste.
So, your not actually increasing the hit, just refining it.
For example.
A really bad one, but all I can think of.
If you have a gram of coke.
and add half a gram of teething.
You still have a gram of good coke albeit mixed with half a gram of teething powder.
If you have 1.5grams of coke (with teething powder) and take out the teething powder.
You still have a gram of coke. but technically, your taking less, so the potency has "increased".
Dont make sense, but yeah, more you refine it, the less you have, but the more concentrate, THATS THE WORD!, the more concentrated it is.

Well "obviously" "mole" you know nothing about chemistry because if you did you would have understood by reading my first question that the "increasing" I was talking about is not the same as refining. I was talking about changing the chemical precursers of THC that are in the oil (which is by the way as pure oil as your going to get by any means of refining due to the fact that the oil you have is not refinable by any means other than using liquid CO2 which requires more lab equipment than either of us could afford in our lifetimesU) into THC [/U] and the THC into delta-9-thc which is the most potent form of THC. But thanks for trying. " obviously"... smartass and thats not "THE WORD" thats the fact.

[Mole2k4]

well, OBVIOUSLY, your a bit of a bonehead with an attitude, like that.

Not to mention the fact, that there is NO EVIDENCE, that delta-9 thc is the main contributor to the medicinal use of cannabis, which I would presume, is the main reason you would be going to so much effort, with a clearly far advanced IQ that you must posses
If however, your some uber cool, science lab tech, and your using it to get stoned. That's alot of effort, for something that isn't really assured to work.

Also, through your own admission, thanks to these pharmacies, able to do your work for, you lose 45% of the THC, when you smoke it, and you also claim that eating it, isn't the most effective way.
So please, enlighten me, if you'r not going to smoke it and not going to consume it, how on earth do you plan to get it into your body?

Cannabigerol (CBG) is the first component of the pathway. It undergoes chemical change to form either cannabichromene (CBC), or cannabidiol (CBD). Delta 9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is derived from CBD.
How do you intend to do such a feat?