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08-22-2005, 09:14 PM #38
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god can not exsist
Here's some interesting things that have a relation to the foundation of organized religion as a whole.
1. There is no such things as beginnings and ends , they are human conceptions. A way for us to label things so that we can comprehend without confusion. Absolutely nothing we have ever learned has led us to believe that something can actually be created from nothing. They can be transmuted but everything was always here. For those that claim there is a beginning and an end , think smaller. Less Macro more micro then maybe you'll see the "light"......
2. Religious people KNOW their god exists, However these same people usually laugh at others who talk of werewolves, aliens etc. Despite the fact that humans have been born feral with tons of hair (thus starting the myth) also there is a disease called lycanthropy look it up.....Aliens also have enough physical evidence to "convict a man of murder in court"(for an analogy of amount of evidence) however people are still called crazy.
3. Often people say god spoke to them or they met it. Why does it(not he it doesnt have a sex stop calling it he people) not show itself to all to save us all , since it will save you personally why would it not save ANY of us atheists....not one.....But, it'll show you , just not us....I guess it's like tinkerbell you gotta believe.....
4. All gods are derived from previous ones lets look at a timeline shall we and maybe you can pick up some similarities
. Zeus,white beard, manly man, white robe Smites evildoer's and punishes but also has human characteristics such as jealousy etc. Odin, White beard, manly man, grey robe, Smites evildoer's and punishes but also has human characteristics (mostly rage big theme in Celtic and Norse myths). Now Yahweh/Jehovah/allah/blah/blah/blah, White beard , Manly man, white robe, Smites evildoer's and punishes but also has human characteristics mainly Jealousy , greed, Spitefulness (and pretty much every one of the seven deadly sins except gluttony(no need to eat he he)...Ah irony at its finest). If you dispute any of those emotional descriptions if "he's" your god well read your bible then
. Especially Romans, Leviticus, Exodus and even Joshua...(there are worse but those are some fine overall neutral examples).
And of course just for Kicks the .....
Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.
9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.
8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.
7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.
(brought to you by the lovely makers of evilbible)
(just as to the imagination thing, the only problem with that entire hypothesis is that (not to be hostile) if I rip your heart out you will hurt , you will die. Your imagination cannot kill you. (Fear can from a heart attack, but thats not your imagination thats your pulmonary/respiratory system). Also A healthy adult will never be 'scared' to death. Their heart is simply too strong. So I just dont buy the arguement that we could all be the figments of someones imagination. Occam's Razor, its possible but is it plausible? Not even in the least in any way shape or form
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But hey its possible im a purple monkey sitting in a dishwasher naked masturbating whilst I type, but once again is it plausible? No. Fun discussion well baked on a hill with friends (either the imagination or the masturbating purple monkey
) but seriously considering it. No thanks Id rather consider that religious people might be right in even some small way.(which is about as plausible as the purple monkey too
).
(sorry for ranting he he)
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