FDA to declare safe meat and milk from clone animals

[pisshead]

well, for anyone who cares...go to www.google.com and type in 'cloning animals for food' or 'cloned animals health problems' or something simliar.

you're going to find hundreds of pages of stuff.

[Beeblebrox.420]

Personal blogs and websites, biased publications and opinions based on conjecture do not count. I want replicable, peer-reviewed studies with data I can examine for myself. A reputable site with articles like this, on the website of the Biotechnology department of Penn State University:

The possibility of certain genetically engineered fish and other animals escaping and potentially introducing engineered genes into wild populations tops the list of concerns associated with advances in animal biotechnology, says a new report from the National Academies' National Research Council. On the other hand, no evidence yet exists that products from cloned livestock are unsafe for human consumption, although the committee that wrote the report found it difficult to identify concerns without additional information about food composition, which could be collected using available analytical tests.

Note the balanced approach to the issue - a hallmark of a reputable source. Is it possible that cloned meat is less safe? Yes. But, its not very likely.




Bolding mine.

[Euphoric]

LMAO..

[pisshead]

eat it all day long then...good for you. i hope you wouldn't support forcing people to not have another choice other than cloned meat.

i choose not to. am i allowed to do that? from what i've read, i have personally found reason enough to not want to eat it. you seem very threatened by my choosing not to do something you don't have a problem with.

i'm sorry.

i'm also sorry i can't ignore moderators...

[Beeblebrox.420]

Relax, pal. I'm not moderating here, I'm debating. You'll know when iI'm moderating, believe me.

I'm am neither threatened nor discouraged by your choice. I'm here to try to educate you and those reading this. In the end, that's really what a debate is meant to be. Ultimately, the free market will determine whether or not cloned meat is successful. All we can do is wait and see. If you choose not to defend your position, well, that's no skin off my nose, either.

[pisshead]

the problem is, even if people are against it, this won't be widely publicized and most people will have no idea what they're getting.

i think most people would rather eat a real cow than a cloned one.

they don't even know what they're getting now in the fruit section of big chain grocery stores.

[Fengzi]

Ok, I agree Pisshead has done little to support his agruments and most of his posts are a bit too heavy on conspiracy theory for me. In many ways, however, I have to agree that cloning for food is a bit scary. I have no moral/ethical issues with cloning and agree that there would be no or little difference between cloned and natural meat if the means of conception was the only difference. But what would be the point? The last time I heard big cows didn't have a whole lot of trouble having little baby cows all by themselves. And, how could all that technology be any more cost effective than just letting the cows go hump each other out in the fields?

The only benefit to cloning animals for food that I can see would be the genetic tweaking that would go along with it. I don't mean cross pollinating one sativa with an indica to get a real nice smoke, that's natural. I'm more concerned with them screwing around with the dna to get some kind of super cow. Sure, the idea of a 10lb. fillet mignon is quite tempting but who knows what the long term effects would be. I actually doubt we'd see any problems to our immediate health but what about future generations?

History has shown that when we fuck with mother nature mother nature fucks back. As soon as we cure one disease another nastier one pops up. Pesticide resitant insects are popping up all over the place. Girls are getting their periods much younger than they used to and many believe (maybe it's actually been proven-don't know myself) that its from all the hormones in the milk children drink. Plus, just look at the posts in some of the other forums from some of the younger members of this board. Something is making them get dumber and dumber....That was a joke, sorry.

Anyhow, I don't have any proof that this would be bad for you but it's just a hunch. In any case I don't want my great granchildren loking like this guy

[Beeblebrox.420]

The advantage would be economic. Farms would no longer have to support males for breeding purposes. As a result, the price of beef would drop and farms would become more profitable. Economics drives all technological development in the private sector.

[nicholasstanko]

Believe it or not, that would probably be just as humane, despite its truly gory nature. Death would be nearly instantaneous. I should explain that in the modern method, the spike is driven by a special pneumatic hammer. It's very fast. It supplanted the older method in which a sledghammer was used.

Yeh, eating cloned meat doesnt seem to be a big deal as long as they dont need radiation or anything to make it. It also seems weird why we're exploring this now at or current situation...but i guess its better to start researching as early as possible in case something happens. I don't think cloned meat is gory at least not gorier than the way we get meat now.

Hey, didnt they once say they wanted to just clone the parts of animals so they wouldnt have to slaughter them?

[pisshead]

Ok, I agree Pisshead has done little to support his agruments and most of his posts are a bit too heavy on conspiracy theory for me. In many ways, however, I have to agree that cloning for food is a bit scary.

thanks, i think...i do however, for whatever i say post a link to it, and in many cases to archives of similar posts...i back up what i say from local tv news sites and newspapers from around the country, legislation, congressional testimony, government websites, multiple newswires, etc.

i won't hold peoples' hands but i'll give them resources to look stuff up on their own, if they want to.

there is no cow shortage or land shortage or food shortage for animals as far as i can tell, the process of cloning animals to eat is unnecessary.