What really Happened at the Pentagon?

[NowhereMan]

It's sad really. You're so indoctrined that you don't even believe in your own

common sense any more. Well...before I dismantle your rather weak

arguement I'd like to say that at work (in an internet cafe') i always discuss

political issues with customers while I let the Alex Jones show play. I've had

dozens of people agree with me and i've had a few call me an asshole. at the

end of the day there are people that ive woken up. i might not shout into a

bullhorn during a demonstration but at least i can get a few people to think

outside of what theyve been force-fed by the media.

The same media that told you a plane crashed at the pentagon. Okay so where is it? Where's the plane? Have you ever even bothered to read the witness testimonies? Most of the official ones are from foreign immigrants working labour and government workers...GOVERNMENT workers. There were many many caucasians in all the photos but foreign immigrants give the witness reports to congress.

You're so busy telling me and other "conspiracy nuts" that our ideas are stupid but you cant account for any of our concerns genuinely. We're here asking for pictures of the plane but we're assholes because the gov. wont let us see them? Even Popular Mechanics can't give a good story without it being full of holes.

People died that day. We all know that. How they died is a mystery. It's a mystery because there are no photos/ Why wouldnt there be photos? Why did the FBI go to all the booths and stores in the area and confiscate their surveillance within 40 mins? That seems mighty quick considering an attack occurred at the pentagon.

I notice that you were o busy blindly following government that you never even bothered to read the eyewitness testimony of a woman who said she saw pieces of the nose from the aircraft. But supposedly the plane disintegrated according to popular mechanics. it amazes me how the plane can be disintegrated but the nose gear didnt...the first part of the plane to hit. and this wasnt at-the-time. this was after the crash as in the next couple days during excavation. But we're just idiots right?

The government knew about pearl harbour 12 days before the attacks. they let it happen for people to rally for war without question. It's a matter of complete public record. 60 years ago the government lied and let people die to engage in a world war. But i guess since cnn doesnt do an expose on it every anniversary means it never happened. You wont even bother to try and look it up with a simple google search will you? its okay. it never happened if you don't care. the government was totally different 60 years ago. they never would have been behind something as totally similar and manipulatively parallel as this right?

Kids did lose their parents. The government saw to that. Don't worry though. Congress has confirmed that at least 500,000 troops will be needed to keep up the war situation. Can you feel the breeze of a draft? alot more kids wont be with mommy or daddy for christmas but that's okay. As long as we get those towel heads right? Don't let the gov. that the U.S> installed tell us to leave like they did two days ago calling for a troop withdrawla timetable that bush refuses to set forth. As long as the oil flows...

I'm sorry you hate the idea of a guy that disagrees with you fighting for your liberties but hey it's alright. I'll still fight even if you shot at me yourself. I want liberty and freedom for all. Liberty and freedom is to be taught...not forced illegally in a corrupt war seeking oil imperialism.



Yeh you're right i guess. Larry Silverstein (thats the owner) said in an interview that they decided to demolish the building. I guess the original idea was to blow it up but the feds changed their minds and it collapsed on its own anyway. You accuse me of spreading lies but you dont object to the lies being told right to your face.

What's wrong with you? You fight the people who want to make the country better and applaud those that wish to rape it... i guess the definitions for "terrorism" and "treason" mustve been changed around just like the physics of 9/11.


P.S. I hope that if i fall in the coming war you will have woken up enough to save the freedoms of whoever's left.

well ya SURE picked that apart
blah blah blah
on i work in a cafe I know the REal truth blah blah blah
blow it out your ass mr Stanko
you dont represent me and What ARE YOU SAYING .fucking war
you declaring war on my goverement?
fuck u
my family has been fighting an signing up to fight for ages,For your right to be asshole conspiracy buff
so please dont hide behind Loyalty ect ect
my dad served in korea
me two bro's and a sister,WORE the army green before(4 of seven kids)
now mr stanko u can get on here and say where is the plane ect>
but like any crime scene the state and the feds do not half tro show YOU a dam thing,
and They wired Bild 7,after the attack on 911,not b4
get you fuCKing facts right if ya gonna spout crap
u can believe what u want and id be the very first to say
anything is possible
but that is not
they did not bomb the pentagon Just becuase u dont know a smashed up plane from a hole in the ground
let them peoples (the victims) rest in peace and dont use them, to spread your shit becuase YOU say i m blind,cant see the truth SPEAK OF BEING BLIND BY A ONE WAY VIEW !!! ur the blind one not me.
mr i seen more than u ever will,and i should have listened to my friend
he said.,forget it wiaste of time trying to talk to u but just know
only a crazy ass could think that wasnt a plane,and was a bomb
bombs dont leave skid marks on the ground the just dig holes
so tell me mr stanko,.just what was it exactly
tell us how a bomb leaves a trail on the ground sliding into that biulding?
i know what i saw on LIVE TV,a burning plane crash nothing esle.
and i know what you saw aint what i did,oh u have a clip u will say
of what? a burnt spot?
oh yea where is the debri,,,?
in lil bitty pieces,under study of experts,
study impacts a few yr and get back to me
or just shut the fuck up

do i thinkj the us goverment is honest FUCK NO
fair Hell no
but would it bomb its own military installations?

YOU MUST BE FUCKING JOKING

[nicholasstanko]

well ya SURE picked that apart
blah blah blah
on i work in a cafe I know the REal truth blah blah blah
blow it out your ass mr Stanko
you dont represent me and What ARE YOU SAYING .fucking war
you declaring war on my goverement?
fuck u
my family has been fighting an signing up to fight for ages,For your right to be asshole conspiracy buff
so please dont hide behind Loyalty ect ect
my dad served in korea
me two bro's and a sister,WORE the army green before(4 of seven kids)
now mr stanko u can get on here and say where is the plane ect>
but like any crime scene the state and the feds do not half tro show YOU a dam thing,
and They wired Bild 7,after the attack on 911,not b4
get you fuCKing facts right if ya gonna spout crap
u can believe what u want and id be the very first to say
anything is possible
but that is not
they did not bomb the pentagon Just becuase u dont know a smashed up plane from a hole in the ground
let them peoples (the victims) rest in peace and dont use them, to spread your shit becuase YOU say i m blind,cant see the truth SPEAK OF BEING BLIND BY A ONE WAY VIEW !!! ur the blind one not me.
mr i seen more than u ever will,and i should have listened to my friend
he said.,forget it wiaste of time trying to talk to u but just know
only a crazy ass could think that wasnt a plane,and was a bomb
bombs dont leave skid marks on the ground the just dig holes
so tell me mr stanko,.just what was it exactly
tell us how a bomb leaves a trail on the ground sliding into that biulding?
i know what i saw on LIVE TV,a burning plane crash nothing esle.
and i know what you saw aint what i did,oh u have a clip u will say
of what? a burnt spot?
oh yea where is the debri,,,?
in lil bitty pieces,under study of experts,
study impacts a few yr and get back to me
or just shut the fuck up

do i thinkj the us goverment is honest FUCK NO
fair Hell no
but would it bomb its own military installations?

YOU MUST BE FUCKING JOKING

Can you believe this guy told me that i was paranoid? Look at how he attacks me in such an aggresive tone.

I said that I would fight for his liberties whether he agrees with my opinion or not and now i'm declaring war on your government? I'm a terrorist now? I remember bush saying "if you're not with us your with the terrorists" on tv. Looks like you've been drummed up pretty good.

I'm glad your dad fought in korea. Im proud that he put his life on the line for me and my friends and family. I'm not proud however of whats going on now. Anyone of yours serve in 'nam?

You're right the feds dont have to show me a damn thing. And as long as they dont they will have people who stand against their adamance. People like me .

They wired buil. 7 after 9/11. So i suppose some nut superimposed it collapsing the day after? It collapsed not after 9/11 but DURING 9/11. Within a matter of hours. A terrorist attack has occurred noone knows what happened and instead of concentrating resources on what DID happen they demolish a building that's in no danger of collapsing. Yes and i suppose the fact that building 7 held thousands of sensitive financial records for the cia fbi and other organisations has no meaning to you either. Also owned by the same owner of the towers. I understand how you dont find odd the fact the owner of all three buildings unfortunately had all three of the buildings he owned destroyed that day but no permanent damge to other buildings that actually got hit by debris collapsed. He should have owned them too and we wouldve had a bigger catastrophe i'll bet.

As for the Pentagon...you say there were skid marks? That's news to me. I just have photos of a perfectly neat lawn. I'm glad you got the REAL photo though So since you say it skidded then you've just debunked the PM theory of it hitting the ground and "bouncing". Now we're progressing.

I watched the live coverage too. I saw a huge hole with plumes of smoke coming out. You sure as hell didnt see a plane. You saw smoke (and mirrors). I know that for a fact because i saw it too. Tell us what the plane looked like then since you saw it all.

You say the government wouldnt bomb its own government buildings. You say i must be fucking joking. Ive posted several times that the plane crashed into an abandoned section that was restricted from non-security level entry. If you think that the government couldnt set things up to hit a part of the pentagon not under use then you sir, bewilder me beyond belief.

You say the government wouldnt bomb its own government buildings. I see you've taken the "liberty" of ignoring the fact i pointed out pearl harbour was condoned by president roosevelt himself. They didnt bomb their own fleet but they sure as hell didnt mind the japanese doing it for them. You call me blind but you ignore the relevant facts i display to further your own ignorant agenda. but what the hell, i must be fucking joking.

[nicholasstanko]

Nowhereman's frantic rages remind me of when psycho4bud started all rational in his anit-conspiracy arguement. I noticed the more facts you gave him the angrier and less intelligent his posts became as he desperately grabbed hold of his ignorance. Now it's happening again.

hmm...p4B hasnt posted back here in quite some time...

[NowhereMan]

Can you believe this guy told me that i was paranoid? Look at how he attacks me in such an aggresive tone.

I said that I would fight for his liberties whether he agrees with my opinion or not and now i'm declaring war on your government? I'm a terrorist now? I remember bush saying "if you're not with us your with the terrorists" on tv. Looks like you've been drummed up pretty good.

I'm glad your dad fought in korea. Im proud that he put his life on the line for me and my friends and family. I'm not proud however of whats going on now. Anyone of yours serve in 'nam?

You're right the feds dont have to show me a damn thing. And as long as they dont they will have people who stand against their adamance. People like me .

They wired buil. 7 after 9/11. So i suppose some nut superimposed it collapsing the day after? It collapsed not after 9/11 but DURING 9/11. Within a matter of hours. A terrorist attack has occurred noone knows what happened and instead of concentrating resources on what DID happen they demolish a building that's in no danger of collapsing. Yes and i suppose the fact that building 7 held thousands of sensitive financial records for the cia fbi and other organisations has no meaning to you either. Also owned by the same owner of the towers. I understand how you dont find odd the fact the owner of all three buildings unfortunately had all three of the buildings he owned destroyed that day but no permanent damge to other buildings that actually got hit by debris collapsed. He should have owned them too and we wouldve had a bigger catastrophe i'll bet.

As for the Pentagon...you say there were skid marks? That's news to me. I just have photos of a perfectly neat lawn. I'm glad you got the REAL photo though So since you say it skidded then you've just debunked the PM theory of it hitting the ground and "bouncing". Now we're progressing.

I watched the live coverage too. I saw a huge hole with plumes of smoke coming out. You sure as hell didnt see a plane. You saw smoke (and mirrors). I know that for a fact because i saw it too. Tell us what the plane looked like then since you saw it all.

You say the government wouldnt bomb its own government buildings. You say i must be fucking joking. Ive posted several times that the plane crashed into an abandoned section that was restricted from non-security level entry. If you think that the government couldnt set things up to hit a part of the pentagon not under use then you sir, bewilder me beyond belief.

You say the government wouldnt bomb its own government buildings. I see you've taken the "liberty" of ignoring the fact i pointed out pearl harbour was condoned by president roosevelt himself. They didnt bomb their own fleet but they sure as hell didnt mind the japanese doing it for them. You call me blind but you ignore the relevant facts i display to further your own ignorant agenda. but what the hell, i must be fucking joking.

more blan blah blah
post something about something REAL
not your anti fuking us propoganda

did they drop the ball yes
did they throw the pass NO
so your the ignorant one
me i aint blinded by hate
my fellow countrymen died that day
so fuck you for them YOUR not helping anyone do anything
your SO FUCKING CALLED EVIDENCE
SHOW ME THE PROOF.
OR SHUT THE FUCK UP


and we used to shoot fucking triators
and yes i think your Helping america's enemies
so agian i say to your Fuck you
no,fuck you
i not only would.put my life on the line for the USA
i Have,
what have you done?
tell us mr stank,what the fuck have ya done to protect me?
ya mouth off on here and want to be MY hero hahahah ur dilisional
now i can appreciate ya view be it all screwed up(lay off the hard stuff) but i tell ya YOUR just so anti goverment you'd believe anything and everything
i am glad we have a us goverment even if i dont agree with all it does
but it will not publically anyway Kill its citezens without a kangaroo court
so blah blah blah some more
who really gives a flying fuck what some Paraniod fuck like you says anyway
good day
and ps
u started it, with ya Yokel fuk u shit
city boy

[NowhereMan]

Nowhereman's frantic rages remind me of when psycho4bud started all rational in his anit-conspiracy arguement. I noticed the more facts you gave him the angrier and less intelligent his posts became as he desperately grabbed hold of his ignorance. Now it's happening again.

hmm...p4B hasnt posted back here in quite some time...

you think im in a frantic rage
now who is full of shit
u thats who
im so calm today
hmm think on this
you just like attention
lose some baby fat and come back with EVIDENCE
not THEORY saying its facts

[Button Basher]

Do you guys enjoy putting eachother down over something neither of you really know 100% about?
Not that I mean to intervene but it's pretty obvious neither of you are gonna change your views in light of each others arguments. As if this is even going anywhere. Seems kinda childish if you ask me, particularly as your both kinda repeating shit over and over. Is it so hard to agree to disagree?

Anyway, like I said, don't think you need to listen to me. Just a thought is all.

[nicholasstanko]

more blan blah blah
post something about something REAL
not your anti fuking us propoganda

did they drop the ball yes
did they throw the pass NO
so your the ignorant one
me i aint blinded by hate
my fellow countrymen died that day
so fuck you for them YOUR not helping anyone do anything
your SO FUCKING CALLED EVIDENCE
SHOW ME THE PROOF.
OR SHUT THE FUCK UP


and we used to shoot fucking triators
and yes i think your Helping america's enemies
so agian i say to your Fuck you
no,fuck you
i not only would.put my life on the line for the USA
i Have,
what have you done?
tell us mr stank,what the fuck have ya done to protect me?
ya mouth off on here and want to be MY hero hahahah ur dilisional
now i can appreciate ya view be it all screwed up(lay off the hard stuff) but i tell ya YOUR just so anti goverment you'd believe anything and everything
i am glad we have a us goverment even if i dont agree with all it does
but it will not publically anyway Kill its citezens without a kangaroo court
so blah blah blah some more
who really gives a flying fuck what some Paraniod fuck like you says anyway
good day
and ps
u started it, with ya Yokel fuk u shit
city boy

Again...shouts at me and tells me to fuck off in so many words.

I havnt fought in any wars at all. I have no desire to either. If i had to i would. But since i never fought i have no right to say fighting is a bad thing.

Once again he curses and shouts but doesnt respond to any of my pertinent points that i used to debate. He says to show him proof. I've done so numerous times as have lots of others. I suppose the proof he requires lies in Bush confessing on live television.

Was I supposed to curse and shout too? Let me know. I want to be ignorant.

[nicholasstanko]

Do you guys enjoy putting eachother down over something neither of you really know 100% about?
Not that I mean to intervene but it's pretty obvious neither of you are gonna change your views in light of each others arguments. As if this is even going anywhere. Seems kinda childish if you ask me, particularly as your both kinda repeating shit over and over. Is it so hard to agree to disagree?

Anyway, like I said, don't think you need to listen to me. Just a thought is all.

I can go into a bathroom stall and not know 100% who it was who took a

shit but it still stinks. The only point im making now isnt because of views but

because this guy insists on reducing intelligent thought-provoking debates

into redneck drunken bar fight style shouting rants.

Nicholasstanko: "I'd fight for your liberties even if you didnt agree..."
Redneck: "Fuck you! You declaring war on my country?"

NS:" Let me link several articles that dont agree with one another"
RN: "Fuck You! Stop making up lies"

NS: "Let's explore the relationship with the owner of buil. 7 and analyze all the financial and morale gain america would gain from an attack"
RN: "Fuck You! Let the dead rest in peace"

NS: "I dont agree with war because..."
RN: "Fuck you! You never served in a war you have no right to an opinion unless youve killed someone"

NS: "I have all these declassified gov. documents that prove my points on how state-sponsored terorism has been used and suggested many times before 9/11 in a disturbingly similar fashion..."
RN: "Fuck you where's your proof...Fuck that proof you already have...i want more"

NS: Bush is destroying this country just look at these economic reports...
RN: Fuck you! I love Bush! He's from Texas And he's one a them there repo-blicans.

I love how this marijuana forum inspires users to engage in healthy open debates. Apparently you dont.

[nicholasstanko]

Whoops Sorry Button Basher. I didnt mean to imply you dont care about this forum. I forgot i was responding to you and not Nowhereman

[Button Basher]

That's cool. But you gotta admit, this is hardly a healthy debate. A healthy debate is when two individuals exchange ideas and opinions on a subject without resorting to (as you put it) drunken brawl behaviour.

If you don't wanna go there Nick then don't, rise above it. I'm not gonna pass judgment on nowhereman but he's not gonna come to an agreement with you any time soon (ever). Your not gonna get through life expecting everyone to agree with you. Like you said, some people will listen, others will call you an asshole. At the end of the day, your screeching at eachother over the Internet, not having a healthy debate. You can make another point if you like but he'll probably tell you to fuck off again. Why not be the better man, which in my book, is the guy that doesn't lower himself to that kind of behaviour out of pure frustration.