What really Happened at the Pentagon?

[Beeblebrox.420]

unless u were there ya know squat.

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Yep, that's about the size of it.

[heartsurgerysurviver]

The plane, Pan AM , going to Europe, that blew up, in a big fire ball, over the ocean was 92% recoverd and reassembled in a hanger in Long Island. If a plane , with that happening to it , can be found, under water spred over MILES of ocean. How come there is no substancial wreckage from an inpact into a building???? The one over water BLEW up , the pentagon was a crash. Don't give me the fire crap, Jet fuel burns at 1400 degrees, not enought heat to "melt" ALL of a jet 747/757. Where's the wreckage??? A few parts?? Bull. I , for one don't believe all the lies our government tells, a little common sense with a little knowledge and an open mind can easily see the fabracation. No disrespect to anyone who lost thier lives in these tragedys, the disrespect comes from the people who tells lies.
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I dare anyone to show a link to a pictures showing a 747/757 wreckage at the pentagon, there is none!!! There are pictures of the partically reassembled jets that hit the twin towers.
Time to revolt!!!!

[Beeblebrox.420]

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/..._evidence.html

Besides, no one's explained how multiple civilian witnesses claim to have seen the plane crash. I suppose the government paid them all off?

[NowhereMan]

WHAT PEOPLE?!?! WE HAVE NO EVIDENCE BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT WONT RELEASE ANY INFO! They could have had scarecrows in the plane for all we know.

Im glad im an asshole. An asshole that wont shutup and take the garbage you seem to revel in just so you wont have to do anything about it. Dont worry I dont agree with your opinions but Im still going to fight for your liberty. Im glad we have arguements because WE HAVE A RIGHT TO THEM. I'd rather have 200 people opposed to an idea that i like than 201 people who have to have the same opinion.

God bless America and God bless the people of every country.

wont do anything?
like what?what the hell have u done.

you spread bullshit about some big bad goverment and make me defend them
get it right,i dont like that.i love america
its not perfect but i tell ya simply
people got on a plane,it got highkacked it crashed into a REINFORCED structure called the pentagon and they died there
scrare crows huh, dont ya see how fucking Far fetched that one is

now dont MUCK the water,,GET a REAL Issue and we can go from there
but some MADE up crap like They blew up the towers and bombed the pentagon is just like the most fucked up shit i ever heard
CAN WE SAY PARANIOD??

it happened Lil kids lost parents and i be damned if i let you say your defending my rights,when u say crap like that

your fucking wanting to say i do nothing about it like your a hero
well whoopity doo
pat yourself on tha back ,have a fucking cookie
just shut the fuck up with LIES and crap
and it being on some website somewhere DONT Make it true
does it
rational thought says I know what i saw and i know i didnt
i also know that it is not possible to keep people quiet about it
if they set that up,people would have saved evidence to back up what they say ,and it would have leaked ,AND DO SAY IT HAS CUASE SOME ANTIBUSH CREW DECIDED TO FLAME HIM THAT WAY,
nobody wired up them places to blow up
AND
about that no debri,?
wtf,plenty of debri ,did ya not see the live coverage?
comparing what one engine did hitting one place,dont mean shit
angles & volocitys and hardness of materials ,
PLANES DID IT.and i need no degree to see that
when metals meet at high speeds its just a fucking mess
even my yokel ass can understand that
what ya expect it do stay in a neat assortment,someone mentioned that plane in the water being put back together,
well yea it hit the water and stopped,did not grind into a solid mass of concrete and steel made to PROTECT THE MILITARY INSIDE it
but yaw make me feel very smart,
so thank you

[nicholasstanko]

wont do anything?
like what?what the hell have u done.

you spread bullshit about some big bad goverment and make me defend them
get it right,i dont like that.i love america
its not perfect but i tell ya simply
people got on a plane,it got highkacked it crashed into a REINFORCED structure called the pentagon and they died there
scrare crows huh, dont ya see how fucking Far fetched that one is

now dont MUCK the water,,GET a REAL Issue and we can go from there
but some MADE up crap like They blew up the towers and bombed the pentagon is just like the most fucked up shit i ever heard
CAN WE SAY PARANIOD??

it happened Lil kids lost parents and i be damned if i let you say your defending my rights,when u say crap like that

your fucking wanting to say i do nothing about it like your a hero
well whoopity doo
pat yourself on tha back ,have a fucking cookie
just shut the fuck up with LIES and crap
and it being on some website somewhere DONT Make it true
does it
rational thought says I know what i saw and i know i didnt
i also know that it is not possible to keep people quiet about it
if they set that up,people would have saved evidence to back up what they say ,and it would have leaked ,AND DO SAY IT HAS CUASE SOME ANTIBUSH CREW DECIDED TO FLAME HIM THAT WAY,
nobody wired up them places to blow up
AND
about that no debri,?
wtf,plenty of debri ,did ya not see the live coverage?
comparing what one engine did hitting one place,dont mean shit
angles & volocitys and hardness of materials ,
PLANES DID IT.and i need no degree to see that
when metals meet at high speeds its just a fucking mess
even my yokel ass can understand that
what ya expect it do stay in a neat assortment,someone mentioned that plane in the water being put back together,
well yea it hit the water and stopped,did not grind into a solid mass of concrete and steel made to PROTECT THE MILITARY INSIDE it
but yaw make me feel very smart,
so thank you

It's sad really. You're so indoctrined that you don't even believe in your own

common sense any more. Well...before I dismantle your rather weak

arguement I'd like to say that at work (in an internet cafe') i always discuss

political issues with customers while I let the Alex Jones show play. I've had

dozens of people agree with me and i've had a few call me an asshole. at the

end of the day there are people that ive woken up. i might not shout into a

bullhorn during a demonstration but at least i can get a few people to think

outside of what theyve been force-fed by the media.

The same media that told you a plane crashed at the pentagon. Okay so where is it? Where's the plane? Have you ever even bothered to read the witness testimonies? Most of the official ones are from foreign immigrants working labour and government workers...GOVERNMENT workers. There were many many caucasians in all the photos but foreign immigrants give the witness reports to congress.

You're so busy telling me and other "conspiracy nuts" that our ideas are stupid but you cant account for any of our concerns genuinely. We're here asking for pictures of the plane but we're assholes because the gov. wont let us see them? Even Popular Mechanics can't give a good story without it being full of holes.

People died that day. We all know that. How they died is a mystery. It's a mystery because there are no photos/ Why wouldnt there be photos? Why did the FBI go to all the booths and stores in the area and confiscate their surveillance within 40 mins? That seems mighty quick considering an attack occurred at the pentagon.

I notice that you were o busy blindly following government that you never even bothered to read the eyewitness testimony of a woman who said she saw pieces of the nose from the aircraft. But supposedly the plane disintegrated according to popular mechanics. it amazes me how the plane can be disintegrated but the nose gear didnt...the first part of the plane to hit. and this wasnt at-the-time. this was after the crash as in the next couple days during excavation. But we're just idiots right?

The government knew about pearl harbour 12 days before the attacks. they let it happen for people to rally for war without question. It's a matter of complete public record. 60 years ago the government lied and let people die to engage in a world war. But i guess since cnn doesnt do an expose on it every anniversary means it never happened. You wont even bother to try and look it up with a simple google search will you? its okay. it never happened if you don't care. the government was totally different 60 years ago. they never would have been behind something as totally similar and manipulatively parallel as this right?

Kids did lose their parents. The government saw to that. Don't worry though. Congress has confirmed that at least 500,000 troops will be needed to keep up the war situation. Can you feel the breeze of a draft? alot more kids wont be with mommy or daddy for christmas but that's okay. As long as we get those towel heads right? Don't let the gov. that the U.S> installed tell us to leave like they did two days ago calling for a troop withdrawla timetable that bush refuses to set forth. As long as the oil flows...

I'm sorry you hate the idea of a guy that disagrees with you fighting for your liberties but hey it's alright. I'll still fight even if you shot at me yourself. I want liberty and freedom for all. Liberty and freedom is to be taught...not forced illegally in a corrupt war seeking oil imperialism.

nobody wired up them places to blow up

Yeh you're right i guess. Larry Silverstein (thats the owner) said in an interview that they decided to demolish the building. I guess the original idea was to blow it up but the feds changed their minds and it collapsed on its own anyway. You accuse me of spreading lies but you dont object to the lies being told right to your face.

What's wrong with you? You fight the people who want to make the country better and applaud those that wish to rape it... i guess the definitions for "terrorism" and "treason" mustve been changed around just like the physics of 9/11.


P.S. I hope that if i fall in the coming war you will have woken up enough to save the freedoms of whoever's left.

[nicholasstanko]

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/..._evidence.html

Besides, no one's explained how multiple civilian witnesses claim to have seen the plane crash. I suppose the government paid them all off?

Why do you keep showing that same photo that has wreckage that was obviously planted by the feds? Youre the one who said the plane is made of aluminum. if it exploded enough to be twisted like that then why isnt it even singed or blackened by smoke residue? oh well... the law of physics and reality dont matter where 9/11 is concerned i guess.

[Beeblebrox.420]

Why do you keep showing that same photo that has wreckage that was obviously planted by the feds? Youre the one who said the plane is made of aluminum. if it exploded enough to be twisted like that then why isnt it even singed or blackened by smoke residue? oh well... the law of physics and reality dont matter where 9/11 is concerned i guess.

Planes don't explode when they crash. That's pure grade-A Hollywood bullshit. And that's NOT the only photo on that site. In any case, that part you see is from the rear of the plane, and was most likely torn off when the plane bounced off the Pentagon lawn prior to impacting the building. Notice how far it is from the building itself. This being the case, I would not expect this part to show any signs of fire damage. You speak of physics and reality, but clearly, you have no grasp of either.

So, tell me. If it wasn't a plane that struck the Pentagon, then what happened to American Airlines Flight 77 and the people who were on it and are now clearly missing?

[nicholasstanko]

Planes don't explode when they crash. That's pure grade-A Hollywood bullshit. And that's NOT the only photo on that site. In any case, that part you see is from the rear of the plane, and was most likely torn off when the plane bounced off the Pentagon lawn prior to impacting the building. Notice how far it is from the building itself. This being the case, I would not expect this part to show any signs of fire damage. You speak of physics and reality, but clearly, you have no grasp of either.

So, tell me. If it wasn't a plane that struck the Pentagon, then what happened to American Airlines Flight 77 and the people who were on it and are now clearly missing?

Exactly. Grade A Bullshit. Now we're getting somewhere. I point out how it's impossible the plane exploded and disintegrated. You tell me it's bullshit. My original claim in the first place. So since it didnt explode where are the pieces?

And Im glad you noticed the distance. The plane crashed and went forward...DIDNT explode as you said but yet a piece went backwards onto the lawn that didnt show anything on it. It may have been dragged out and lain on the lawn when the cleanup crew came but only one piece conveniently displayed for a photo op?

So which one is it...Pm's version of the plane disintegrating or abovetopsecret's version of the wreckage that appears out of nowhere...?

I dont know what hit the pentagon and i dont know where flight 77 is. That's what I want to know. Without pictures or testimonies that actually corroborate with one another that's mighty hard. You can't give any feasible reason why photos arent released aside from what the feds hand-picked for us.

[nicholasstanko]

if they set that up,people would have saved evidence to back up what they say ,and it would have leaked ,AND DO SAY IT HAS CUASE SOME ANTIBUSH CREW DECIDED TO FLAME HIM THAT WAY,

Listen to your own words man. They would have saved evidence. They didn't. The

biggest attack on american sovereignty ever and they carted all the evidence away

and SOLD it to foreign nations under a strict confidentiality agreement within one

week. Of course it makes perfect sense.

doesnt matter to you because Bush explained it in nice easy words...terrorists.

told you.

It would leak you say? I guess the hundreds of reports from experts stating that the

story is bogus doesnt count. Whats-his-name who was on the bush cabinet stating

that 9/11 was impossible to carry out without the help of some kind of military

complex doesnt count either. Do you need bush to sign an affidavit for you?

And as for the anti-bush movement. I don't see any way they could possibly

have anything to use against him. I mean he certainly doesnt make HIMSELF to look

like an idiotic despot. I guess I know where you're vote is going when they introdice

the bill that can allow bush another term in office...indefinitley. As long as america

is at war. America's been in a veritable state of war since the Jap-American war

before ww1. Bush won't have any trouble getting nice and comfy in office and that

suits you just fine, right?

God, I love Bush. and yes virginia, theres is a santa clause.

[heartsurgerysurviver]

The same type of jet a 727 crashed a few weeks later [after 9/11] in brooklyn. it crashed, blew up and hit buildings. There are hundreds of photos of this showing jet parts everywhere. Yet no pictures of the suposed jet that hit the pentagon. WHY? Show me a link with pictures of the pentagon with jet debris. You can't, no one can. Don't you want to know why? Do you believe our government is telling the truth?
Also , water landings, pilots are taught , if possible , not to land on water, water is a harder surface to land on. The flight that blew up over water TOTALLY destroyed that jet , yet they managed to get over 90% of it and rebuild it. I don't see that from the pentagon {suposed} jet. The FAA is suposed to reconstruct ALL air accidents, noy done at the pentagon. WHY???
I like these intelligent discussions, but calling others names just weakens your points. SHOW me a picture of jet debris at the pentagon, i'm waiting. remember jet fuel only burns at 1400 degrees, not hot enough to melt ALL of a 747/757. There'd still be tons and tons of pieces left. Yet no pictures, I can see some just follow and believe anything our government tell us. I want to believe , but i need proof, and so far i haven't seen any. This government can fabricate and cover up ANY thing they want to. they've done it many , many times before. Can you say fabricated info on weapons of mass destruction to go to war.
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now try not to sware, show me the pictures