DILUTION: tips, tricks and guidelines

[chantoke]

I know this thread is old but for people who read it and wonder, drinking a lot of water or fluids days before the test is useless. As long as you are properly hydrated you will not be able to raise your kidney's filtration rate by loading up on water. You kidneys will regulate your blood volume to adjust for the increased water intake and you will not be able to increase your kidney's output of THC metabolites.

i think you might have reversed your thinking there. it's not that less THC total is filtered, it's that you dilute your urine enough so that there are say 1 part per 100,000 units of water instead of 1 part per 10,000 units of water. dilution works. only problem is 'specific gravity' or density of your urine goes down and the lab can check that as well.

this thread gives pretty detailed explanations of how to make your urine not seem diluted as well. not sure if it's as reliable. and nothing really seems as reliable as substituing.


this all depends on how old you are too. after 25-30 peoples kidneys really slow down. and it depends on your weight, because thc can form a suspension with your fat that makes it a very slow release over a very long period of time.

chantoke Reviewed by chantoke on 06-05-2007. DILUTION: tips, tricks and guidelines DILUTION: aka WATER LOADING FOR BEST RESULTS ABSTAIN FOR A BARE MINIMUM OF 48 HOURS BEFORE THE TEST AND THE LONGER, OF COURSE, THE BETTER YOUR CHANCES. Time permitting, 2-3 days before the test you will want to begin raising you Creatinine levels. Creatine, which metabolizes into Creatinine in 24-48 hours, can be raised with red meat and/or Creatine supplement, available on line or at nutritional food stores. The amounts of Creatinine metabolites are measured as part of the urine integrity Rating: 5

[sudden0utburst]

hey um... i got a problem

im only 19 (on june 13 woo!) n imon probation

now i smoked about a hit n a half (maybe 2 lol) of some kinda potent shit...
i weigh 170 im a lil chubby but kinda stalky... but neways
my next piss test is on the 19th n i smoked on the 10th!!!

i am gonna follow the dilution method but im scared.. i dont wanna lose my life.. n i know it was irresponsible n all but im still.. in a rut man...

more info: before the 10th, i smoked on like the 25th or before that, like a hit or 2 maybe 3.... n before that was about a month or two... do u guys think ima get locked up.. or will i be fine? anyone.. please? anyone trustworthy?

[FakeBoobsRule]

i think you might have reversed your thinking there. it's not that less THC total is filtered, it's that you dilute your urine enough so that there are say 1 part per 100,000 units of water instead of 1 part per 10,000 units of water. dilution works. only problem is 'specific gravity' or density of your urine goes down and the lab can check that as well.

What do you mean I might have reversed my thinking? I never said less THC total is filtered. I understand dilution completely. I gave this explanation about 4 months ago. I have no problems understanding or explaining dilution.

Actually I do and I will show you why without hesitation . First of all, THC is fat soluble, not water soluble. You can't flood your body with water or fluids and clean it out like you would pressure wash your driveway. The rate at which THC metabolites are eliminated in urine is governed by your kidneys' glomerular filtration rate. Once properly hydrated, you cannot increase the GFR by increasing fluid intake. If you keep drinking and drinking fluids and your body didn't regulate itself, you would die. To control this, your kidneys will pull water from the body and eliminate it to make up for the excess fluids you are drinking. During this whole process, you will not make your kidneys work better because you are taking in excess fluids and going to the bathroom more often. You did not increase how effective your kidneys are eliminating THC metabolites from the blood. All you did was increase the amount of water in your urine.

When you drink a lot of fluids on the day of the test, this is know as the dilution method. You are not passing the test because you cleaned your body of THC metabolites. What you have done is you have decreased the concentration of THC metabolites in the urine by increasing water. Most drug tests are not zero tolerance. Most drug tests use a cutoff on immunoassay of 50 ng of THC metabolites per ml of urine. Some tests will use a different cutoff but we will stick to this one. If you increase the mls of urine your body is prducing an hour, your THC metabolite concentration will drop. For example, if your body is eliminating 25,000 ng of THC metabolites an hour and 50 mls of urine an hour, your THC concentration is 25,000 divided by 50 mls for a level of 500 ng/ml. That would be a failure. If you take in excess fluids on the day of the test and produce 500 mls of urine an hour your concentration is now 25,000 divided by 500 for a level of 50ng/ml.

Your dad passed because he diluted, not because he cleaned himself out. He increased the amount of fluid in his urine and the concentration of THC metabolites dropped. Same amount of THC metabolites were there when he got to work that day, only after being told of the drug test, he increased fluid intake, increased fluid in the urine, drop in concentration. Cranberry juice is a mild diuretic and also has mild anti-septic properties in the urinary tract (why women subject to frequent urinary tract infections sometimes drink a lot of cranberry juice). It doesn't clean you out though.

Some THC metabolites are eliminated through sweating but very very little. Most THC metabolites are actually eliminated from your body by your liver, bile, and feces. Aerobic exercise can help you burn more THC metabolites from your body because THC is fat soluble and if you increase fat cell turnover, this can help. So it is the aerobic exercise burning calories that is important, not the sweat you get from the aerobics.

Use the search feature and you can find the original thread. I am too tired and I gotta hurry before my girl wakes up.

[Guy]

If i use multi-vitimin will it pass for the vitamin B i need to make my pee yeller?

[v4r1bl3]

Well...I followed the dilution method as well as I could, and I took a test today. The piss was still incredibly pale, though, so I'm worried they'll just say it's an automatic failed because it looks like I tried to cheat the test. Just wanted to say thanks for the information, and to wish me luck, haha...

[v4r1bl3]

Oh, and by the way guys, with the creatine, from my research, they only test for 5ng/ml, which is an extremely small amount. They can't really test the creatine, because they don't know what your normal level is without testing you 24 hours before hand, just for your creatine level

[FakeBoobsRule]

Oh, and by the way guys, with the creatine, from my research, they only test for 5ng/ml, which is an extremely small amount. They can't really test the creatine, because they don't know what your normal level is without testing you 24 hours before hand, just for your creatine level

OMG This advice is completely INCORRECT.

First of all they are measuring creatinine clearance and not creatine. Second the unit of measure is mg/dl not ng/ml. Third they can test for creatinine clearance and they aren't testing for creatine. Fourth, the level where you might be considered dilute is not 5 ng/ml but at 20 mg/dl or less, you could be in danger of getting a dilute negative depending on what your specific gravity is.

[v4r1bl3]

Yeah, chief, I made a typo, and I've read on several different pages that they've lowered it to 5mg/dl, my bad.

[v4r1bl3]

Actually, we're both right, they're both units of measure. And by the way, not everyone is as perfect as you, but I'm pretty sure could still realize that when I said "creatine" they're testing of some form of it.

[FakeBoobsRule]

No, just because they are both units of measure doesn't mean we are both right. Below 5 mg/dl is usually considered non-human urine and not a dilute sample. Then you get into a whole new round of trouble because you look like you have adulterated your sample.