Quote Originally Posted by amsterdam
not everyone in those democrat states is a democrat.the republicans were the ones picking up votes in those states.
How? If they picked up votes, wouldn't they have won the seats, instead of losing? Democratic senators represent more people than do Republicans. You can't get around that.

Quote Originally Posted by amsterdam
there are FAR MORE republicans in america than democrats.its all about getting them out to vote.if you do that ,you win.obviously.
I'd like to see statistical evidence of that. Every poll or article I read on the subject, and I'm well-read on this, says that most people identify themselves as leaning Democratic when it comes to domestic policy and Republican when it comes to foreign policy (though, that is shifting). It's not so cut and dry as there are more of this party or more of the other.

Quote Originally Posted by amsterdam
if i were the dems i would stop fretting with the far left of the party,they dont help.the dems need the middle of the road voter and they lost that in the last election.the dems also must have the minorities wich they are slowly losing wether you choose to admit it or not.at this point in history,our P.R. and marketing is far more productive than the dems. I dont disagree with all the dems positions,but they shoot themselves in the foot with howard dean who keeps the far left loyal,while removing the middle of the road voter from the dem control.

is dean working for Rove?seems so.
I used to feel that Dean was bad for Democrats for that very same point. But then I realized that it was Dean who energized the Democratic party by playing to the most liberal members. And that Kerry lost that momentum by moving to the center.

The reason why Republicans are winning is because they cater to the far right. The most extreme part of any group's base is where the activism comes from. The far left is where Democratic activism comes from and Dean is doing the right thing, regardless of what you hear or read in the media.

Karl Rove dodged a bullet when the media fixated on Dean's Iowa concession speech in 2004.