i've tried salvia a few times...got the same 'pulling' effect. saw indians standing around me and i was in a cave lit by torches. that was on plain leaf. THEN, i tried 15x and i was in some sort of elf cavern with stones all over the walls...that time didn't last very long. now, i've got some 20x left over that i haven't tried yet...gonna try it soon, we'll see what happens.