lol i do understand your point omn....very much so....but there is a flip side to that...even tho if they were all gonna be geneticly female...they could have easily been stressed to the point of hermie ....the point i was making is i keep a very tighty grow room and ive made sure for the past 80 days that my plants take in the least amout of stress ...they were vegged 60 days and have been flowering for 20....only 40 more days til cut :-)...wow the time has been flying by PEACE