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06-07-2005, 03:07 PM #11
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great post bhallg. i didnt even know about the flag flying after integration. Personally, I think we all take our freedoms for granted. Just because the Constitution states that we can run around and say and worship and demonstrate as we please doesnt give us the right to shove it down the throats of others. That in turn breeds a bigger rally to supress it based on the rights of you being able to protest what you want as well. I don't care if redneck 34 IQ assholes fly their flags all over the place and hold demonstrations talking about "them there nappy headed big nose breathin' black sonsabitches." i've heard enough of that shit to last a lifetime. But when you use state property or tax payer's money to sponsor that ignorance then you've got me all over your ass like Bush in a cocaine field.
\"You know...it\'d be really swell if you could just shut the fuck up for a change\"
Force is your only friend, fear is your only weapon and ignorance your only shield.~hempity (cannabis.com)
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06-07-2005, 04:52 PM #12
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My Indian Brothers are still living on reservations. We dont bitch as much as NAACP.
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06-07-2005, 05:05 PM #13
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06-07-2005, 05:11 PM #14
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WHat kinda shit is that?, Heres a lil tid bit for u UR OWN PEOPLE INSLAVED UR OWN PEOPLE FOR Generations Before the white people come along.slavery is long gone live in the future dont Hate us for the past, weve tried 2 make up for it but all the NAACP does is bitch and want more.it would be black people for white people.
Im far from racist Dont generalize everyone, iv had 4 Black girlfriends and iv still flown my flag NOT EVERY FLAG THAT IS FLOWN IS MEANT TO BE RACIST.....I'd be willing to bet that that's the case for every Confederate flag being flown today.
When is the Black community gona let it go? Your Pretty damn free now and the NAACP still wants more.On another note, I don't get this fascination the South has with the Confederacy, for any reason. When are Southerners going to let the Civil War go? It was 140 years ago. The Confederacy failed. I'm a Southerner, born and raised, and I got over it a long-ass time ago. In fact, I don't think it was ever an issue with me
But no matter how much i argue this point its not gona go anywehre it never has=(
God bless.
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06-07-2005, 05:56 PM #15
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Just keep focuseing on such a insignificant moment in time Torg.
Originally Posted by Torog
Thats just what they want you to do, keep your fronts on something as idiotic as who can wave a flag and who cant.
Think its bad now?... you aint seen nothin yet. Watch the history channel, watch shows about how Hitler took over Germany.
Its really very scary to see the blinding similairities between what is going on now and what happen in germany.
Hitler made a big mistake after invadeing Poland, instead of takeing over Poland and getting the support of the citizens before he moved on, he simply moved on to Russia.
Had he done what the US is doing now, and thats move into an area, set up programs to help the people, and install a form of goverment that is a mirror of there own. (all done under the umbrella of good intentions) And then occupy the region long enough to teach the children of this new way. After time the people know nothing of what it used to be, because all teaching of that will be considered terrorist acts.
Set up new schools for the children and then educate the teachers in "our" vision.
Then after you have the support of the masses in your newly acuired country, you can then refill the ranks and move to the next country on the list.
History is well documented and when you have documentation from both sides of a conflict the truth can be worked out. But if its one system that is allowed to take over. no truth can be found because the only side of the story we will ever know is that of the victor. And as history is proveing now, the Victor will not be held accountable for lies.
One huge flaw I see in this is the American people are wakeing up. To control them for the duration it will need to be done with force. And with the military falling short of its recruiting goals by 48% last time around. I dont think our Military and police can handle 2 fronts. One at home and one abroad is just to many and we would be forced to withdraw from Iraq should we fall into civil war.
But ya never know, maybe thats the plan. While you raise the next breed in Iraq, keeping your show of force there in the form of 14 bases. Turn your attention to your own people and once they are comformed. your new crop has grown in Iraq and then they can move on to the next country on the list.
Nothing to do with flag waveing, but thats my point.
Peace.
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06-07-2005, 05:59 PM #16
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"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State."
--Dr. Joseph M. Goebbels
Alexander Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago, an eye witness account by a prisoner of Russia's gulags:
"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at handâ?¦The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!"
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06-07-2005, 06:04 PM #17
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Are you out of your mind too?
Originally Posted by RidingHigh
First off, don't assume you know anything about me with that "you people" shit. I'm not black. It doesn't take a black man to realize that black people have been shat on for years. Only a small amount of intelligence is required. Also, when I hear anyone say "you people" when referring to another ethnic group, it almost immediately makes me think you're not coming from a place of any kind of cultural harmony.
Second, why is it a generalization to say that those who fly the Confederate flag are racist? We fly the flags of those who we agree with. And was not one of the major tenents of the Confederacy the right for white people to own black people, that Negroes were nothing more than property? Yes, they were about more than slavery and yes the Civil War was about more than slavery. But sometimes, a bad apple ruins the bunch. You won't find me flying a Nazi flag because Germany had free health care in the '30s.
I think the NAACP will "let it go" when black people play on a level playing field. Maybe they'll let it go when American prisons aren't predominantly filled with minorities, when pay for blacks reaches that of whites, when urban education is given the same funding as suburban education. They'll let it go when drug laws, hell all laws, don't have a racist tilt to them. Maybe they'll let it go when the life expectancy of a black man reaches that of a white man, or at least when black men can collect their Social Security at a younger age. Perhaps they'll let it go when black people aren't harrassed in voting lines, or mislead about where to vote.
The NAACP is doing its job because no one else will. You're ignorant if you think racism is dead.
And don't tell me "we've tried to make up for it." You ain't done shit. Have you given a black man your pay as reparation for your ancestors' wretched abuse of his ancestors? I don't think so.
And also don't tell me that blacks enslaved each other long before the white man came along. While it's true that African Muslims (Arabs) enslaved other Africans (blacks) long before the white man, black Africans never enslaved each other. I don't understand why this myth has legs, but blame it on a collective guilty conscience.
You're just wrong. And that's not even the saddest part. This is:
"You're pretty damn free now"
So you're saying close to free is good enough?
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06-07-2005, 06:18 PM #18
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hey...cool....bhallg2k is black too...neat
\"You know...it\'d be really swell if you could just shut the fuck up for a change\"
Force is your only friend, fear is your only weapon and ignorance your only shield.~hempity (cannabis.com)
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06-07-2005, 06:19 PM #19
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oh....lol. i read the second sentence and apparently he isnt. i should smoke some more to calm down...
\"You know...it\'d be really swell if you could just shut the fuck up for a change\"
Force is your only friend, fear is your only weapon and ignorance your only shield.~hempity (cannabis.com)
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06-07-2005, 06:25 PM #20
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I'm Bill Clinton black.
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