Quote Originally Posted by SomeDude
yeah, irresponsible people get guns and hurt people. irresponsible people also get driver's liscenseS and hurt people. Just because some people are irresponsible doesn't mean you should ban the responsible ones from their rights.

The problem with it being easy to get guns is a black market thing. High demand plus lots of laws against it = ubiquitous black market, just like the black market for drugs came about.

The only solution is for eveyone to do their best to foster a healthy society, in whch people don't want to use guns or commit crimes. Since we don't have that, I'll be damned if I give up my only effective means of protection from the irresponsible fucked up members of our society. We cannot continue pointing our fingers at guns, or drugs, or foreigners or anything else commonly blamed, our society must grow up and point the finger at ourselves and learn we must change our own minds and hearts instead of trying to legislate our problems away. Since this ain't gonna happen on a large scale any time soon, you can pry my guns from my cold dead hands.

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i dont want to take your guns just to keep people from going trigger happy,i'm with stedic i'm for gun control(instead of the american[or any other] government wasteing money fighting the "war on drugs"{wich just means the war on marijuana with a few other things so it LOOKS like we're doing something other than keeping people from smokeing pot}they should concentrate it on destroying the black market for guns and makeing it much harder to obtain them it wont stop the problem but nothing will,it will just control it alot better than letting 10 yearolds get their hands on guns[i'm watching cops right now and they just caught a 10 yo with a loaded .45 and two rocks of crack] )i think if someone who is responceable and just wants protection from some guy robing them should be able to own guns,acctualy there are some countries that only let you own a handgun if you need one(i.e doctor,lawyer,things that a client could come in and shoot you over some fuck up)i think that is how we should handle it,but that is unrealistic,but we could asleast control guns and amunition(makeing bullets much much more expensive[unless you have a permit to own and carry a gun]opr make them completly unavailable to anyone without the said permit.i know it is a inconveniance and i know the respectable person shouldn't have to go though that but sometimes you have to make sacrifices for the better of the world

i dont mean to make this an argument or hijack the thread but it's the most available time to state my beleifs and if you dont want to read it take a second to move your finger over the roller on your mouse or keyboard and skip it...