Dear God my brother is dumb sometimes...

[Stedric]

volcaones go off by themselves. guns don't.

I agree, irresponsible people shouldn't have guns. If someone doesn't feel good about having a gun, then by all means they shouldn't own one. I'm not trying to convince anyone to get a gun, and I don't want this or any other thread turn degenerate into an argument about guns or anything else, so I'll just say to each his own. As long as you don't try and take my guns away you're welcome to have any opinion you wish on the matter.

If you use 'em responsibly and don't go reaching for it everytime the doorbell rings than I don't see a reason why you shouldn't be entitled to one. I'm for gun control, not gun abolishment.

[Etrain]

I may sound very american when I say this, or rather, very Texan, but that is why we wear our guns around the house. Even my gramps is more strapped than a lesbian orgy. Meth heads...ugh...that's all i have to say about tweakers. We have deer season, and turkey season, and dove season, why not tweaker season?

Tweaker season haha. Fuck sted, you need to beat that speed freaks ass man, for real...even if you're not into violence.

[Stedric]

Tweaker season haha. Fuck sted, you need to beat that speed freaks ass man, for real...even if you're not into violence.

Man, take a look at these pics...

Now tell me if you think I look like the violent type.

[KronicKing]

volcaones go off by themselves. guns don't.

I agree, irresponsible people shouldn't have guns. If someone doesn't feel good about having a gun, then by all means they shouldn't own one. I'm not trying to convince anyone to get a gun, and I don't want this or any other thread turn degenerate into an argument about guns or anything else, so I'll just say to each his own. As long as you don't try and take my guns away you're welcome to have any opinion you wish on the matter.

the peoblem is irresponsible people DO have guns and if they dont they cant get them at any time(i've seen 9 y/o selling crackw/ a handgun on him on cops[the tv show that shows a cop on patrol answering calls for those not in the states)it makes you an irresponsible person by turning your back on the fact that they can and will get their hands on them if they want,its not an insult and im not saying your irresponsible in any other way,just that one.

stedic,i would've gone balistic,i never cause anyone problems and never get into fights,but if someone tryed to steal the stuff the I worked my ass off for i would have maimed him.i aviod violence and trouble because im a peace loveing kida person(i dont even kill bugs i just shoo them out)but that kind of thing would send me off totaly that crowbar would be loged so far up is meth head ass he could open beer bottles with his mouth...

[Hydrizzle]

Personally, I'd hide in the shadow near my door, and when the shit-for-brains comes waltzing in, I'll put a shell right into his knees. Then, as he lays screaming on the ground, I will cuff him with my handy zip-ties, drag his ass outside, then call the cops, "yeah, I just kneecapped a guy and now he's bleeding in my yard.... your gonna want to send a cruiser over... maybe an ambulance"

The lesson here is: Don't fuckign coem into random people's houses unless you want to die/become handicapped. Especially my house.... I'm a light sleeper.

[SomeDude]

yeah, irresponsible people get guns and hurt people. irresponsible people also get driver's liscenseS and hurt people. Just because some people are irresponsible doesn't mean you should ban the responsible ones from their rights.

The problem with it being easy to get guns is a black market thing. High demand plus lots of laws against it = ubiquitous black market, just like the black market for drugs came about.

The only solution is for eveyone to do their best to foster a healthy society, in whch people don't want to use guns or commit crimes. Since we don't have that, I'll be damned if I give up my only effective means of protection from the irresponsible fucked up members of our society. We cannot continue pointing our fingers at guns, or drugs, or foreigners or anything else commonly blamed, our society must grow up and point the finger at ourselves and learn we must change our own minds and hearts instead of trying to legislate our problems away. Since this ain't gonna happen on a large scale any time soon, you can pry my guns from my cold dead hands.

MOLON LABE
COME AND TAKE IT

[RaoulDuke45]

no offense but all those names sound like viking names

[Stedric]

no offense but all those names sound like viking names

Ok... I'm assuming you mean scandinavian...and there was only one name...I don't see your point.

[KronicKing]

yeah, irresponsible people get guns and hurt people. irresponsible people also get driver's liscenseS and hurt people. Just because some people are irresponsible doesn't mean you should ban the responsible ones from their rights.

The problem with it being easy to get guns is a black market thing. High demand plus lots of laws against it = ubiquitous black market, just like the black market for drugs came about.

The only solution is for eveyone to do their best to foster a healthy society, in whch people don't want to use guns or commit crimes. Since we don't have that, I'll be damned if I give up my only effective means of protection from the irresponsible fucked up members of our society. We cannot continue pointing our fingers at guns, or drugs, or foreigners or anything else commonly blamed, our society must grow up and point the finger at ourselves and learn we must change our own minds and hearts instead of trying to legislate our problems away. Since this ain't gonna happen on a large scale any time soon, you can pry my guns from my cold dead hands.

MOLON LABE
COME AND TAKE IT

i dont want to take your guns just to keep people from going trigger happy,i'm with stedic i'm for gun control(instead of the american[or any other] government wasteing money fighting the "war on drugs"{wich just means the war on marijuana with a few other things so it LOOKS like we're doing something other than keeping people from smokeing pot}they should concentrate it on destroying the black market for guns and makeing it much harder to obtain them it wont stop the problem but nothing will,it will just control it alot better than letting 10 yearolds get their hands on guns[i'm watching cops right now and they just caught a 10 yo with a loaded .45 and two rocks of crack] )i think if someone who is responceable and just wants protection from some guy robing them should be able to own guns,acctualy there are some countries that only let you own a handgun if you need one(i.e doctor,lawyer,things that a client could come in and shoot you over some fuck up)i think that is how we should handle it,but that is unrealistic,but we could asleast control guns and amunition(makeing bullets much much more expensive[unless you have a permit to own and carry a gun]opr make them completly unavailable to anyone without the said permit.i know it is a inconveniance and i know the respectable person shouldn't have to go though that but sometimes you have to make sacrifices for the better of the world

i dont mean to make this an argument or hijack the thread but it's the most available time to state my beleifs and if you dont want to read it take a second to move your finger over the roller on your mouse or keyboard and skip it...

[SomeDude]

we should control guns, but making them more expensive and making them harder for legal users to get does not make us safer because people who buy on the black market don't follow those laws. That would only serve to disarm responsible people and allow the criminals to be armed. I agree that we should work to destroy the black market, by I also concede that it won't happen in our society until society matures. A vast majority of the guns used in crimes are black market guns, and most of the gun control laws don't do anything to stop this.

I'm definately willing to make sacrifices for the better of the world, but not ones that aren't going to do any good. I think the sacrifices that need to be made are those that involve a personal effort to uplift members our communities from poverty and ignorance. I wholeheartedly believe that most crime stems from poverty and the dehumanization that comes from being impoverished. I volunteer more hours than I work and spend more money on other people than my own education. I can see attitudes changing from violent to hopeful.

You cannot legislate the problem away with gun laws, you must create change in society, educate and uplift the poor, and work for a societal well being that reduces the need for violence.