yeah, irresponsible people get guns and hurt people. irresponsible people also get driver's liscenseS and hurt people. Just because some people are irresponsible doesn't mean you should ban the responsible ones from their rights.

The problem with it being easy to get guns is a black market thing. High demand plus lots of laws against it = ubiquitous black market, just like the black market for drugs came about.

The only solution is for eveyone to do their best to foster a healthy society, in whch people don't want to use guns or commit crimes. Since we don't have that, I'll be damned if I give up my only effective means of protection from the irresponsible fucked up members of our society. We cannot continue pointing our fingers at guns, or drugs, or foreigners or anything else commonly blamed, our society must grow up and point the finger at ourselves and learn we must change our own minds and hearts instead of trying to legislate our problems away. Since this ain't gonna happen on a large scale any time soon, you can pry my guns from my cold dead hands.

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