Quote Originally Posted by SomeDude
we should control guns, but making them more expensive and making them harder for legal users to get does not make us safer because people who buy on the black market don't follow those laws. That would only serve to disarm responsible people and allow the criminals to be armed. I agree that we should work to destroy the black market, by I also concede that it won't happen in our society until society matures. A vast majority of the guns used in crimes are black market guns, and most of the gun control laws don't do anything to stop this.

I'm definately willing to make sacrifices for the better of the world, but not ones that aren't going to do any good. I think the sacrifices that need to be made are those that involve a personal effort to uplift members our communities from poverty and ignorance. I wholeheartedly believe that most crime stems from poverty and the dehumanization that comes from being impoverished. I volunteer more hours than I work and spend more money on other people than my own education. I can see attitudes changing from violent to hopeful.

You cannot legislate the problem away with gun laws, you must create change in society, educate and uplift the poor, and work for a societal well being that reduces the need for violence.
good point,i'll have to say i agree there,but i said you should make bullets unavailable to anyone without a permit to have a gun,and you cant obtain a permit(even now if you want to carry a concealed weapon)if the gun wasn't purchased leagly,this wouldnt stop all gun crimes,it may not even stop more than 5% but 5% is more than none