Quote Originally Posted by Torog
Howdy Blue Cat,

I have already served my country,in the Navy,and would do so now,if I wasn't too old and disabled..heck..I can still shoot just fine..although a SAW (squad automatic weapon),would probably wear me out pretty quick. As for being up close,I have already experienced Saudi culture up close,and I don't want to,ever again..but I would sure love to take some of em out ! Another front-line I'd like to go to,is much closer and doable,the mexican border...say..do ya reckon the mexican military,would retrieve it's dead,before retreating back into mexico ? Actually,I'd rather wound some of them and capture them,escorting drug shipments across the border,and catch em red-handed on this side of the border.

You see,apparently unlike you,I believe in spreading democracy and freedom..your son,is a liberator of the oppressed..and I'm very proud of him for that,as you should be. Just because you already have your freedom,doesn't mean that you should ignore those who don't have freedom. I have a cousin serving in South Korea,even as we speak,and I worry for his safety too. My family has fought in every war and conflict,since the birth of America and will continue to do so in the future.

Have a good one....
Well here is something that we agree on Torog, we should be closeing our borders.

So tell me why our armed forces are off in the dessert freeing people that your would love to shoot a few of, while our borders go unprotected?

Seeing as your family has been fighting wars in every generation, it isnt a surprise to me that you think the way you do.

My family just like yours has had many generations of soldiers, I myself Honorably Discharged in 96' from the Navy.

I can tell you that looking at my own family and the character traits that are passed down from member to member. You and I were both more or less bred to be soldiers.

It's no secret that these men and women have disassociated themselves from emotion in order to fight. And that carries home to the children, and their children then learn to disassociate as well.

Because as many have said, once its turned on, they dont teach you how to turn it off. And they dont want to, If they teach you how to turn it off you wont pass that dissassociation to your children. And you will kill the key factor that keeps you thinking the way you do.

Use fear as a control.

Its all over the military, and in the battle feild it is what is needed, BUT, your kids dont need it.

And the long term effects of fear is deppression, unless you can effectivly disassociate your self from it.


But dont take my word for any of this, go talk to a proffesional as I have.

Find out the truth for yourself, but not even considering another side of the story is just you disassociateing yourself from the fear, in the form of denial.

Peace.