Well, actually Torog, I know myself and PH have always contended that there are no liberals or conservatives. So I dont think that that is really the case about Hilary. Just means we wouldnt invade China for another 4 years till they can run Jeb.

But nothing would change, I seem to recall a little something called whitewater. And now Bush is being seud by the New York Firemans Wives Association for racketeering.

It is widely accepted that all polititians are scum bags and crooks.

So why is it so hard for you to maybe consider that you are being lied to?

Peace.