Just a few questions about 9/11

[nicholasstanko]

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/concreteplane.html

Did you watch the film....Oh my god, see the plane turn into dust! You call Bush supporters "blind followers" but yet you follow Alex Jones with the same zeal as those you downgrade.

Is film enough proof or do you have to consult with Alex first?

I responded to the video on the post right after yours.

[pisshead]

this isn't about alex jones...alex jones is one tiny fraction in this whole thing.

i have books about this stuff before alex jones was born.

and that site sounded really official...calling him an asshole and all that.

i can put up a website saying psychobud is an asshole and then post it here...does that count?

[Psycho4Bud]

After reading most of this conspiracy crap from you and Nicholass I would be honored for you to call me an asshole.

Crazy, well the plane come in from an angle while the jet was horizontal. DUDE?

Face it, the far left...such as yourself...have the Alex Jones and the right wing nut jobs have the Rush Limbos. Why put so much blind faith in a shock jock?

If you two want to live out your lives believing that the government is out to get ya...go for it! As for myself, I realize that politicians, lawyers, insurance companies, etc. are as crooked as the day is long but I sure the hell ain't about to follow some nut job in hopes that he/she will be the savior that changes the system. People like that are no different than those they condemn...Cash, popularity, fame, power, they all have the same directive; only difference is whether its left wing bullshit or right wing bullshit.

Southpark stated it best: Your choice is between a giant douch or a terd sandwich.

P.S."You seem keen to respect the dead but also mighty intent on forgetting them." What about the loved ones left behind that have to contend with this type of crap? Put them to rest and let the families heal!

[pisshead]

first of all, i'm not far left...i'm more conservative than you can imagine. george bush makes clinton look conservative, and i don't like bill clinton or george bush, they're the same, bush is continuing the same policies of clinton, just like he did with bush, sr. george bush has grown government dramatically, $1 trillion higher budget than clinton's last year, he signed us back onto unesco, the borders are wide open, there's more social and corporate welfare than ever...it goes on and on...george bush is not a conservative...

and worshipping government does not make you a good citizen.

i'm for small, limited federal government, states' rights, constitution and bill of rights, separation of powers and checks and balances...your left/right labels don't work.




not to mention...i've seen the towers hit and collapsing from many different angles...and you see charges going off before the buildings collapse, all up and down the building...then the buildings are pulverized into smithereens in mid air...

i know i'm supposed to just believe that physics is turned upside down every time we're attacked...so can anyone explain how a building pulverizes and shoots out hundreds of feet of material because of some fires...that were mostly out according to the fire fighters tapes that were released...just small pockets of fires up and down the building...

how does that blow the building out into dust? building 7 too...a few small fires, people were told to get back because the building was going to be pulled...and it has every indication of a controlled demolition, not to mention the owner of the building said they decided to pull it and demolish it...it has every marker of a controlled demolition...

but i'm supposed to believe that a few small fires on a few floors accidentally brought down a building perfectly perpendicular to the ground...even though modern steel buildings have burned for days and the steel frame remains...and they don't collapse.

you're just easy to fool i guess. then again, so was i, i used to believe the 19 freedom hating hijackers did all of that on their own because their pictures were all over the TV (even though 6 or 7 have come forward saying they are alive and they saw themselves on tv)...along with warning administration members not to fly, and placing record put options on american and united airlines...no explanation for that from the 19 hijacker conspiracy theorists.

and just because me or no one else can say for 100% exactly what happened, neither can the 19 hijacker conspiracy theorists...doesn't mean i'm wrong...i look at who had the means, motive and opportunity to pull this off...and 19 tinpot freedom hating muslims don't anymore appear to be the likely culprits.

[nicholasstanko]

After reading most of this conspiracy crap from you and Nicholass I would be honored for you to call me an asshole.

Crazy, well the plane come in from an angle while the jet was horizontal. DUDE?

Face it, the far left...such as yourself...have the Alex Jones and the right wing nut jobs have the Rush Limbos. Why put so much blind faith in a shock jock?

If you two want to live out your lives believing that the government is out to get ya...go for it! As for myself, I realize that politicians, lawyers, insurance companies, etc. are as crooked as the day is long but I sure the hell ain't about to follow some nut job in hopes that he/she will be the savior that changes the system. People like that are no different than those they condemn...Cash, popularity, fame, power, they all have the same directive; only difference is whether its left wing bullshit or right wing bullshit.

Southpark stated it best: Your choice is between a giant douch or a terd sandwich.

P.S."You seem keen to respect the dead but also mighty intent on forgetting them." What about the loved ones left behind that have to contend with this type of crap? Put them to rest and let the families heal!

You're a real idiot if you think that comparing a jet fighter to a commercial airliner is a valid point. You obviously took "love the government blindly 101" instead of physics. If a jet on wheels travels at the same speed on wheels then its momentum coupled with either constant or increasing speed is going to punch through a concrete wall. You also forgot to mention that you're video only showed a concrete wall not reinforced with steel like the pentagon. The plane came at an angle....THATS THE POINT. You sit there and compare the two saying they could do the exact same damage but yet ANGULARITY and TRAJECTORY have nothing to do with it?

No I'm sorry. I'm not far left. Alex Jones hates Democrats. I'd rather put my faith into a "shock jock" with nothing to gain monetarily than a government that's been proven to be corrupt hundreds of times before that does. You tell me that I'm being blind but yet, ol' Georgy boy tells you to not question the issues and you say "Yes Sir! Shall I shove an enema up yor ass as well sir?" How does it feel to know that not everything is a Black and White partisan issue?

I never stated that the government was out to get anyone. I'm trying to open people's eyes and show them that we let our governments run all over us and tell us what to do without realising it. Society is becoming way too apathetic and we're forgetting what it truly means to have rights and freedoms. Do you have kids? Are you looking forward to the day when you're a crazy old coot talking fantastical stories about how there used to be a time when people had a say in what decisions the government was allowed to make? It's easy to criticise others that dedicate their lives to not being duped and not letting others be duped. Calling them shock jocks and conspiracy theorists even though they often have alot more reliable sources than newsweek, and why? Because they tell us things we dont want to hear.

Last point on this post. You brought up the article calling him another capitalist and you say he's no different than anyone else. So basically, what you're saying is that our society has become so interwoven with the idea of making money and ditching integrity that it's commonplace. So since everyone else is into it, things are perfectly justified then? You're so smart the government could never "get" you. You've already been bound and gagged.

[nicholasstanko]

No I'm sorry. I'm not far left. Alex Jones hates Democrats.

My bad. He doesnt hate Democrats. Just the current politicians

[pisshead]

he dislikes anyone who abuses their position, locally, on the state and federal levels, republican or democrat.

or should i say, republicrat or demopublican.

[Psycho4Bud]

You're a real idiot if you think that comparing a jet fighter to a commercial airliner is a valid point. You obviously took "love the government blindly 101" instead of physics. If a jet on wheels travels at the same speed on wheels then its momentum coupled with either constant or increasing speed is going to punch through a concrete wall. You also forgot to mention that you're video only showed a concrete wall not reinforced with steel like the pentagon. The plane came at an angle....THATS THE POINT. You sit there and compare the two saying they could do the exact same damage but yet ANGULARITY and TRAJECTORY have nothing to do with it?

No I'm sorry. I'm not far left. Alex Jones hates Democrats. I'd rather put my faith into a "shock jock" with nothing to gain monetarily than a government that's been proven to be corrupt hundreds of times before that does. You tell me that I'm being blind but yet, ol' Georgy boy tells you to not question the issues and you say "Yes Sir! Shall I shove an enema up yor ass as well sir?" How does it feel to know that not everything is a Black and White partisan issue?

I never stated that the government was out to get anyone. I'm trying to open people's eyes and show them that we let our governments run all over us and tell us what to do without realising it. Society is becoming way too apathetic and we're forgetting what it truly means to have rights and freedoms. Do you have kids? Are you looking forward to the day when you're a crazy old coot talking fantastical stories about how there used to be a time when people had a say in what decisions the government was allowed to make? It's easy to criticise others that dedicate their lives to not being duped and not letting others be duped. Calling them shock jocks and conspiracy theorists even though they often have alot more reliable sources than newsweek, and why? Because they tell us things we dont want to hear.

Last point on this post. You brought up the article calling him another capitalist and you say he's no different than anyone else. So basically, what you're saying is that our society has become so interwoven with the idea of making money and ditching integrity that it's commonplace. So since everyone else is into it, things are perfectly justified then? You're so smart the government could never "get" you. You've already been bound and gagged.

First: I didn't state that the walls were exact replicas nor that the jet and airliner would have exactly the same effects. But fact is the jet turned to dust, NO BIG PIECES! How many walls did the airliner punch through? As it progressed from wall to wall the holes got smaller, kind of like something may have been dissinigrating. And by the way pissant, physics is a big part of my field of work so don't even go there.

Your second paragraph truly shows your level of intellegence...it's no wonder you fall for the "conspiracy theory" of a two bit radio announcer.

Your third paragraph addresses the integrity issue. Are you saying that ratings means nothing to your precious. Ratings brings advertisers which relates to more station profit which relates to ol' boys pockets. Face it, this asshole won't be on any ballot for Sainthood any time soon.
Ya the government could get me. Am I gonna spend my waking hours listening for the good word from a two bit radio announcer for my next move. Hell no, I got a life! Your announcer can kiss my ass and GW can pick the other cheek for all I give a shit. Like I said, they're all fuckin crooks and they're actions will not bind me to a life of "the sky is falling".

P.S. As for kids..my boy is in the service right now! If something were to happen I sure the hell wouldn't disgrace his name or effort that HE believes in by placing blame on the government via the news or in a blog. HE went to the recruiter, HE enlisted for a desired time, and as his father I will honor his decision...like family should do!

[nicholasstanko]

First: I didn't state that the walls were exact replicas nor that the jet and airliner would have exactly the same effects. But fact is the jet turned to dust, NO BIG PIECES! How many walls did the airliner punch through? As it progressed from wall to wall the holes got smaller, kind of like something may have been dissinigrating. And by the way pissant, physics is a big part of my field of work so don't even go there.

Your second paragraph truly shows your level of intellegence...it's no wonder you fall for the "conspiracy theory" of a two bit radio announcer.

Your third paragraph addresses the integrity issue. Are you saying that ratings means nothing to your precious. Ratings brings advertisers which relates to more station profit which relates to ol' boys pockets. Face it, this asshole won't be on any ballot for Sainthood any time soon.
Ya the government could get me. Am I gonna spend my waking hours listening for the good word from a two bit radio announcer for my next move. Hell no, I got a life! Your announcer can kiss my ass and GW can pick the other cheek for all I give a shit. Like I said, they're all fuckin crooks and they're actions will not bind me to a life of "the sky is falling".

P.S. As for kids..my boy is in the service right now! If something were to happen I sure the hell wouldn't disgrace his name or effort that HE believes in by placing blame on the government via the news or in a blog. HE went to the recruiter, HE enlisted for a desired time, and as his father I will honor his decision...like family should do!

Stop being a jerk. You know full well that i never said he wasn't trying to make money. he's not a hippy. Contrary to popular belief you still need money to run websites and produce those same videos you refuse to even view so you'd have something you could speculate about. he questions everything that seems odd or not quite true, you on the other hand say that you dont like the sound of an idea and criticise others. he's someone that makes it his job to let us know what's happening while all of cnn and msnbc shirk journalistic integrity. the same stations that have reliable sources but leave big stories for a quick entertainment fix. Your son...your SON signed up and there's so much evidence that he's been sent to fight for economic gain more than anything else. The same recruiters who signed your son dont care about honor or what's really right. But yet it's okay that something may happen to him because even though he's been duped like alot of others, it was the idealism that counts.

[Psycho4Bud]

I'm a jerk cause I don't folllow some dumb ass on the radio. My son has been duped for signing a paper to serve his country. And your the nutless little bitch behind a monitor spewing big words, calling off names at people that don't follow your leader. Hide in your own lil' spider hole big man! That makes ya two for two. Two days in a row you have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt what a nutless punk really is.
I DO look at the vidios and as I stated in a previous post I look for the side that alot don't want to see, but this big "cover-up" theory that you love so well is nothing but useless radio crap. If you actually knew as much as you assumed your arguments might just hold a little weight.

Watch out boys and girls....the big bad boogie man from Washington is out to get you!!!