Just a few questions about 9/11

[nicholasstanko]

I know this is a pretty common discussion on these boards but what about this pentagon stuff? This is a pretty heated debate but i had like a couple questions...

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blflight77.htm

1) Now when you look at the footage photo of the crash how come you only see a little tiny bit of what looks to be a shredded up diet pepsi can but no other wreckage?

2) How can we really trust "eyewitness reports" about an AA flight crashing...in fact how come we never even saw these people again to give interviews on national television?

3) Sure the black boxes were recovered...but that doesnt necessarily mean that it was recovered at the crash site. In fact, isnt america advanced enough to make their own black box?

4) How come there's no surveillance videos of the plan flying directly over the interstate? If you think about it, it should have flown right over a bunch of cameras.

5) Judy Biggert is a lady who identified bits of wreckage like a plane seat and so forth...but that was DAYS after the crash. If the conspiracy theorists are right then doesnt that mean the government can dummy up some fake crash wreckage when they realised that most people couldnt be duped so easily?

6) I know you still have passengers to worry about...what happened to them? Well...for all we know they could have been martyrs for the cause. Gas 'em and then when they fall asleep crash the plane.

Im not saying im siding with the CT's but... it does make me wonder because we're talking to the same US gov. that always lies or gives mistruths whenever the heat is on and the same government that admitted to feedinf radioactive materials to retarded kids way back in the fities. i think it was because they were experimenting with the idea that if you ingested nuclear materials they give you super powers or something. I'm just saying look...with the emergence of all these documents and memos that basically cite bush as a liar and all that...isnt it MAYBE possible?

I have absolutely no evidence to support anybody's claims but cmon guys...why should we need evidence to investigate a possible question?

nicholasstanko Reviewed by nicholasstanko on 06-01-2005. Just a few questions about 9/11 I know this is a pretty common discussion on these boards but what about this pentagon stuff? This is a pretty heated debate but i had like a couple questions... http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blflight77.htm 1) Now when you look at the footage photo of the crash how come you only see a little tiny bit of what looks to be a shredded up diet pepsi can but no other wreckage? 2) How can we really trust "eyewitness reports" about an AA flight crashing...in fact how come we never even Rating: 5

[pisshead]

remember, the biggest conspiracy theory of them all, is the 19 freedom hating hijackers who evaded any air defense, somehow warned administration members not to fly, made record put options anonymously on the exact airlines that were used, and flew in heavily restricted airspace and over military bases for a long time...and so on and so on...

there's absolutely no way some tinpot terrorists could have pulled this off alone, or without assistance from the military industrial complex.

here's a link to about 600 articles about 9/11...
http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html

dozens and dozens and dozens of different sources.

[nicholasstanko]

thanks pisshead. if there's another anti-war protest im there...or is that a terrorist act?

[BlueCat]

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld regarding Flight 93 having been "shot down....

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=42130

[amsterdam]

i mess up when i talk everyday?so what.

[BlueCat]

i mess up when i talk everyday?so what.

LMFAO yes yes you do....poor Amster, honestly I don't want anyone to die in this war not even you...I know there is little chance of that happening because you would never join but I wanted you to try and see how you might really feel if you were there. I understand now you really don't have a compassionate bone is your body...but I do. Ignorance should not be punished by death. If that was the case our presidents head would have exploded a long time ago.

oh and for the record...it would not be a good idea to bring cuban cigars into this free country...penalties for doing so include, in addition to confiscation of the cigars, civil fines of up to $55,000 per violation and criminal prosecution which may result in higher fines and/or imprisonment.

free conscience
Cat

[mrdevious]

remember, the biggest conspiracy theory of them all, is the 19 freedom hating hijackers who evaded any air defense, somehow warned administration members not to fly, made record put options anonymously on the exact airlines that were used, and flew in heavily restricted airspace and over military bases for a long time...and so on and so on...

there's absolutely no way some tinpot terrorists could have pulled this off alone, or without assistance from the military industrial complex.

here's a link to about 600 articles about 9/11...
http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html

dozens and dozens and dozens of different sources.

1. Pre-911 they could have indeed easily evaded air defense in restricted zones. once the plane is hijacked at the nearest legal point relative to the pentagon, it's like a 20 minute flight tops. they'd already have a headstart with the element of surprise. and many people argue with the trade-towers "why didn't they send a helicopter to get the people on the roof?". they CAN'T. there aren't helicopter (or in case of the pentagon, F-16's) pilots just sitting in their cokpits ready to go, they have to be called in and get there through traffic (obviously this has been changed now).

2. What's this about hijakers "warning administration" exactly? or were you referring to the Bush administration and forgot to ad that?

3. "made record put options anonymously on airlines that were used".... um, could you rephrase that?

4. "there's no way tin-pot terrorists could have done this on their own". well, I agree with you there. unforunately, contrary to many peoples belief, these guys are lunatics screaming about allah in a frantic rage. Al Qaeda is a very well trained and organized operation, trained by ex-military professions, and is said to be equal in ability to the former KGB. When you suddenly whip out a knife, kill the pilots, and head 'er for the pentagon, there's not much time to react.

5. about them putting a bunch of gassed body's on the plane (not referring to the above pisshead quote), there were SEVERAL cell phone calls to families from the planes.

6. all in all, the world isn't an exciting place like the X-files.

[nicholasstanko]

What are ou talking about. Pilots stationed at bases are trained to be ready at an given time even in as little as five minutes if need be.

Why do we keep pretending that the Bush administration never heard anything and werent warned. We're adults here. i think there are enough released documents and statements to refute that.

Dude, you cant just deviate a commercial airline from its course without people knowing. that's why there are carefully laid out flight plans that pilots must follow.

Yes, several calls. Man, I really need to get the rest of my family one of those phones that display my EXACT LOCATION whenever i call them.

All in all if our world was like x-files ironically it wouldnt seem so surreal and unrealistic.

[amsterdam]

some deep thinkers on this thread.

[pisshead]

i remember, as do many people, on 9/11 hearing about the put options placed on American airlines and United airlines in the weeks preceeding 9/11...it was public news for a few seconds.

that's when you bet whatever stock is going to go down. you can't make them anonymously, and the number made was quite suspicious...something you'd look into when investigating something...*normally*. i think that's something worth investigating...

as is the insurance policies taken out on the WTC complex before 9/11...that's another story you could spend hours on.

and by golly, we'll find out who made those put options and get to the bottom of that...it went back to the CIA and the story was dropped, down the memory hole. we'll just flash bin laden's face on the screen a few more hundred times...

bush administration members came out and said they were warned not to fly...mayor willy brown, for whatever reason, said he received a call on 9/10 from his 'security people' at the airport, and they told him not to fly.

people on the streets of NYC knew an attack was coming and were warned by people of the attack.

i guess bin laden personally called ashcrost and brown and told them not to fly, as well as other people in NYC. how nice of him.



i posted a link to about 600 articles concerning 9/11...i think that's the one with 600...the stuff about building 7 being some of the better evidence that points away from 19 hijackers...

you can look at it, or you can not, i don't care. adding stupid x-files comments don't disprove anything.

i used to be a conspiracy theorist and i believed the 19 freedom hating muslims story...there's just way more evidence pointing towards other people who had more to gain, more motive, and more means and opportunity to pull it off.