Yea we have all seen HARDDON's grows and they've had ooh's and ahh's but none from BobBong. But really stop fighting. If anything just like take it out on a pillow cuz that would do a lot more than typing away at the computer trying to prove HARDDON wrong. Goodluck to everyone on their grows. Kthx. Have a nice day! And don't get mad at me I'm just a person with ADHD...you're not ALLOWED to get mad at me. So there!