have you ever tried telling a religous person "god as told in the bible" isnt real. they dont even aknowledge it. I've found that it seems like people like us come to the realization on our own. relgious people are so closed minded they dont think for themselfs and it usualy takes some type of hardship to finally say hey "this religon shit is bullshit" "why would god make us all sooo different if he wanted us to be the same" qoute from the movie saved if you havent seen it i suggest it its a religous satire