Quote Originally Posted by Kombucha
Why do you not understand? If a criminal attacks you with a gun, they clearly have the upped hand. You don't expect to be attacked right then, so you aren't ready to fight straight away are you. They are, because they know what they're doing.



No mention of how successful their attempts at self-defence are...



That's ridiculous... that means nothing. ONE child getting killed at school by a gun is too many. Just because a load more kids die from playing sport (for some reason) it doesn't mean that 22 deaths is ok.

I admit that guns aren't totally the problem. Unfortunately, it is the people. American people are, generally, far too paranoid and ignorant, and pay far too much attention to the media. Look at other countries, Britain is very similar to America is many ways, yet our murder rate is so much lower. We have almost no guns here, even the police can work safely without guns.



Right, so you, having been to Europe once or twice, know more about the situation here than we do? I don't know a single person in this country that has anything but contempt for America.
europe is just as fucked as we are. the same people who own our shit own your shit. we're all going to be one big happy global government family one day.