Quote Originally Posted by pisshead
* Guns are used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense. Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every yearâ??or about 6,850 times a day.1 This means that each year, firearms are used more than 80 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives.2
Why do you not understand? If a criminal attacks you with a gun, they clearly have the upped hand. You don't expect to be attacked right then, so you aren't ready to fight straight away are you. They are, because they know what they're doing.

Quote Originally Posted by pisshead
* Even anti-gun Clinton researchers concede that guns are used 1.5 million times annually for self-defense. According to the Clinton Justice Department, there are as many as 1.5 million cases of self-defense with a firearm every year. The National Institute of Justice published this figure in 1997 as part of "Guns in America"â??a study which was authored by noted anti-gun criminologists Philip Cook and Jens Ludwig.3
No mention of how successful their attempts at self-defence are...

Quote Originally Posted by pisshead
* Twice as many children are killed playing football in school than are murdered by guns. Thatâ??s right. Despite what media coverage might seem to indicate, there are more deaths related to high school football than guns. In a recent three year period, twice as many football players died from hits to the head, heat stroke, etc. (45), as compared with students who were murdered by firearms (22) during that same time period.6
That's ridiculous... that means nothing. ONE child getting killed at school by a gun is too many. Just because a load more kids die from playing sport (for some reason) it doesn't mean that 22 deaths is ok.

I admit that guns aren't totally the problem. Unfortunately, it is the people. American people are, generally, far too paranoid and ignorant, and pay far too much attention to the media. Look at other countries, Britain is very similar to America is many ways, yet our murder rate is so much lower. We have almost no guns here, even the police can work safely without guns.

Quote Originally Posted by amsterdam
like i said wierd,i lived in holland for two years and traveled all over including beirut,saudi arabia and morocco and never saw much drama.im sure you would find it hard to believe but most of the young people in the middle east support bush secretly.they hate the mullahs?as for europe,dont overexagerate,it aint as bad as you say it is.i am no untraveled american and have seen what it is like.it is nothing.
Right, so you, having been to Europe once or twice, know more about the situation here than we do? I don't know a single person in this country that has anything but contempt for America.