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05-25-2005, 11:26 PM #1OPSenior Member
so whats wrong with being a liberal?
Is it not oxymoronic to smoke dope AND be a republican?!
lets look at the meanings...look it up yourself if you don't trust me...after all I am a bleeding heart liberal.
"Lib · er · al - adj. 1. Giving freely 2. Not restricted to literal meaning (a liberal interpretation) 3. Tolerant of different views, not orthodox 4. Favoring reform -n. 1. A liberal person....thats me...
Con · ser · va · tive - adj. 1. Conserving or tending to conserve 2. tending to preserve established traditions or institutions or to oppose any changes in these (conservative politics) 3. of or characteristic of a conservative
It is not wrong to be a liberal, a liberal is somebody who sets the rules of the game to improve society, rather than trying to impose control on a personal level. It is not wrong to believe that people's private lives should be preserved against unwarranted intrusions. ( like the patriot act) It is not wrong to believe that when the government sides with somebody, they should side fairly, not add their power to that of the powerful each and every time. Were the british right to attack the USA during the revolutionary war and tell us we could not bare arms? So Why should we set the rules? Why is it our rules are the only right ones as far as neocons go?
It is not wrong to believe that it should be the market economy serving our interests, not us serving what some elite deems to be the market's interests. (like halliburton and chemiclas, oil, weapons) We should not have to forgo transparency in corporate finance, truth in corporate accounting, and the ability to lead long, happy, and healthy lives, just so some executive who's going to pay himself more money anyways ( can you say ENRON) doesn't see a bite out of his bottom line. Even in purely economic terms, these practices are not without cost to the public.
In the United States, liberals like Susan B. Anthony and Frederick Douglass focused also on universal suffrage, but liberalism in the United States really began with the goals of abolishing slavery and expanding women's rights to create an atmosphere in which universal suffrage was possible. American conservatives were the liberals' adversaries in that they were very class based and generally pro-slavery. The ideas and beliefs of early conservatives and liberals are important because they have helped to shape the modern world in which we live.
SO what are you conservatives trying to conserve.....slavery, prohibition, maybe women should not vote? Maybe we should bring back the witch hunts
and the puritain days...
And, Democrats need to stop cooperating in the destruction of liberalism. We should be proud of it. The excesses of Conservatism are plain to see, people in America are getting sick of it, and yet, we're still willing to play like we're GOP-lite.
So what is it about consevativism i.e. the republicans you want to be a part of? Really I want to know...
THE SHORT FAQ ON LIBERALISM
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/ShortFAQ.htm#conservatism
http://zena.secureforum.com/Znet/zma...ne97herman.htm
confused CatBlueCat Reviewed by BlueCat on . so whats wrong with being a liberal? Is it not oxymoronic to smoke dope AND be a republican?! :confused: lets look at the meanings...look it up yourself if you don't trust me...after all I am a bleeding heart liberal. :rolleyes: "Lib · er · al - adj. 1. Giving freely 2. Not restricted to literal meaning (a liberal interpretation) 3. Tolerant of different views, not orthodox 4. Favoring reform -n. 1. A liberal person....thats me... :D Con · ser · va · tive - adj. 1. Conserving or tending to conserve 2. tending to Rating: 5
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