Quote Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
amsterdam, who gives a fuck if your country is superior or not? loving one country is hating another. grow up and realise that nationality doesnt mean shit, we're all equal.
You realize he is responding to the quite brainless fanatasism that like 85% of the people on this forum have right? The fact that all these foriegners are bashing a country they probably have never been to drags them to the same level we are supposedly at for being patriotic.

Quote Originally Posted by Fengzi
All politicians, whether republican, democrat, or other, are dishonest crooks. It's part of the job. There is simply no way to get ahead in politics by just being the smart, nice guy who always does the right thing. You'd be eaten alive.
WOW! Someone who actually understands the political system we have! Congrats on having common sense my fine friend!

Quote Originally Posted by Fengzi
That being said, Bush still has no business being President. We went into Iraq because of Bush's own agenda.
Correction: we went into Iraq on the agenda of the republican party, and if you remember, congress did vote overwhelmingly to send us to Iraq... it was a response to 9/11, and at the same time deposes a brutal dictator who would be willing to use WMD's if he ever got them, as the government knew.

Quote Originally Posted by Fengzi
He did not care how many Americans or Iraqis would die. He did not care how the rest of the world would view us. He wanted to be some Texas bad ass cowboy and be the guy who got Saddam. Period! What bothered me most is that going to war should be the absolute last thing that any President wants while he is in office. Bush wanted it so badly he probably pissed in his pants on 9/11 out of sheer delight that he'd finally have a reason to go after some arabs.
Did you see the man's face as he sat in that classroom after he was told of what happened? To me he looked devastated. I'm sure he cares about the death and suffering caused by conflict, but those are kind of hard decisions a president has to make. I'm sure Truman had many sleepless night knowing of the suffering WWII was casuing Americans.

Quote Originally Posted by Fengzi
I supported the first Gulf War. We were going to help another country which was helpless against a much stonger invader. Now what makes the US any different from Iraq when it invaded Kuwait? Or Germany when it invaded France, Poland, etc. Sure we had some fucked up reason but so did they. Nobody was right.
So it's okay to go to war to save one country from another, but not save a country's own people from it's ruthless leader and his nuclear ambitions?

Quote Originally Posted by Fengzi
So, I vote modern day Hitler . Maybe he isn't attempting genocide (at least as far as we know) but there are a lot of other similarities. Both were/are egomaniacal, charismatic leaders who used lies in order to go to war in the name of patriotism.
OK, first off, this whole thing about "he lied he lied" has not been proven, people just assume that because they found no WMD's... perhaps they are telling the truth, that thier intelligence really did say that. Comparing any American president to Hitler is just stupid, and I'm not even going to comment on that ignorant statement.