Quote Originally Posted by Torog
So..does this mean that you think that there are no liberals in the education system ?

At least under conservatives,children graduated being able to read,write and do math..under liberals,that no longer matters..being politically-correct,is all that matters to them now.

Have a good one ...
Why do you always miss the point, man? I ask this sincerely. Are you really so stuck in your own ideology that you can't even recognize anything else?

Does it matter if there are liberals in the education system? Does it matter if there are conservatives? You're never going to have a fully one-sided education system. Ever. And I don't give a rip either way and neither should you, just so long as kids come out properly educated. Just as an aside, it might help attract more Republican teachers if you paid teachers a better salary.

The point is that Republicans and conservatives don't know how to run a system of education, no matter who is in it.

For whatever reason, conservatives seem to think that cutting off funding is the only way to make education better. The only proposals and laws regarding education coming from Republicans have been budget reductions. Hell, Reagan tried to eliminate the cabinet-level Department of Education and W hasn't funded his campaign promise of No Child Left Behind. You guys see failing test scores and failing schools and immediately move to reduce funds, saying, "We're wasting money." That's NOT how it works and has been proven by the fact that test scores fall more often under Republicans than under Democrats. That's a fact.

The schools that are failing are failing because they are underfunded and left to fall apart. The kids that are failing are failing because not enough resources are being spent on them; many inner city students don't even have their own textbooks. It has nothing to do with a teacher's liberal or conservative ideology.

Come on, you should know this. Any time something in the military isn't working right, you guys just throw money at it like it grows on trees. And nine out of ten times, it SOLVES THE PROBLEM.

I know that it can be said that liberals just want to spend and spend and spend. And that argument can be valid at times. But seriously, doesn't it make sense to put kids in schools with decent computers, the Internet, music classes, art classes, PE classes, science labs and textbooks for everyone? Depending on where you live, most kids don't have those things in their school. Some don't even have a real classroom. And so often when we talk about failing students and failing schools around the country, it's those that we are referring to.

We spend a lower percentage of GDP on education here in the U.S. than any other industrialized nation. Why do you wonder why our kids' test scores are always the lowest among those from industrialized nations?

(And Amsterdam, if you want to point your finger at liberals for political correctness in schools [axing dodgeball, red ink, etc], you'd do better to point your finger at idiot parents for starting these ridiculous initiatives)