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    #1
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    A LITTLE MORE ON HR 1528

    COPIED FROM M A P SPY VS. SPY

    Neighbors spying on neighbors? Mothers forced to turn in their sons or daughters? These are images straight out of George Orwell's 1984, or a remote totalitarian state. We don't associate them with the land of the free and the home of the brave, but that doesn't mean they couldn't happen here. A senior congressman, James Sensenbrenner ( R-Wis. ), is working quietly but efficiently to turn the entire United States population into informants--by force.

    Sensenbrenner, the U.S. House Judiciary Committee Chairman, has introduced legislation that would essentially draft every American into the war on drugs. H.R. 1528, cynically named "Safe Access to Drug Treatment and Child Protection Act," would compel people to spy on their family members and neighbors, and even go undercover and wear a wire if needed. If a person resisted, he or she would face mandatory incarceration.

    Here's how the "spy" section of the legislation works: If you "witness" certain drug offenses taking place or "learn" about them, you must report the offenses to law enforcement within 24 hours and provide "full assistance in the investigation, apprehension and prosecution" of the people involved. Failure to do so would be a crime punishable by a mandatory minimum two-year prison sentence, and a maximum sentence of 10 years.

    Here are some examples of offenses you would have to report to police within 24 hours:

    * You find out that your brother, who has children, recently bought a small amount of marijuana to share with his wife;

    * You discover that your son gave his college roommate a marijuana joint;

    * You learn that your daughter asked her boyfriend to find her some drugs, even though they're both in treatment.

    In each of these cases you would have to report the relative to the police within 24 hours. Taking time to talk to your relative about treatment instead of calling the police immediately could land you in jail.

    In addition to turning family member against family member, the legislation could also put many Americans in danger by forcing them to go undercover to gain evidence against strangers.

    Even if the language that forces every American to become a de facto law enforcement agent is taken out, the bill would still impose draconian sentences on college students, mothers, people in drug treatment and others with substance abuse problems. If enacted, this bill will destroy lives, break up families, and waste millions of taxpayer dollars.

    Despite growing opposition to mandatory minimum sentences from civil rights groups to U.S. Supreme Court Justices, the bill eliminates federal judges' ability to give sentences below the minimum recommended by federal sentencing guidelines. This creates a mandatory minimum sentence for all federal offenses, drug-related or not.

    H.R. 1528 also establishes new draconian penalties for a variety of non-violent drug offenses, including:

    * Five years for anyone who passes a marijuana joint at a party to someone who, at some point in his or her life, has been in drug treatment;

    * Ten years for mothers with substance abuse problems who commit certain drug offenses at home ( even if their children are not at home at the time );

    * Five years for any person with substance abuse problems who begs a friend in drug treatment to find them some drugs.

    These sentences would put non-violent drug offenders behind bars for as long as rapists, and they include none of the drug treatment touted in the bill's name.

    At a time when everyone from the conservative American Enterprise Institute to the liberal Sentencing Project is slamming the war on drugs as an abject failure, Sensenbrenner is trying to escalate it, and to force all Americans to become its foot soldiers. Instead of enacting new mandatory minimums, federal policymakers should look toward the states. A growing number have reformed their drug sentencing laws, including Arizona, California, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, New Mexico, New York and Texas, and they have proved it is possible to both save money and improve public safety.

    Simply put, there is no way H.R. 1528 can be fixed. The only policy proposal in recent years that comes close to being as totalitarian as this bill is Operations TIPS, the Ashcroft initiative that would have encouraged - -- but not required -- citizens to spy on one another. Congress rightfully rejected that initiative and they should do the same with H.R. 1528. Big Brother has no business here in America.



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    ezjim Reviewed by ezjim on . A LITTLE MORE ON HR 1528 COPIED FROM M A P SPY VS. SPY Neighbors spying on neighbors? Mothers forced to turn in their sons or daughters? These are images straight out of George Orwell's 1984, or a remote totalitarian state. We don't associate them with the land of the free and the home of the brave, but that doesn't mean they couldn't happen here. A senior congressman, James Sensenbrenner ( R-Wis. ), is working quietly but efficiently to turn the entire United States population into informants--by Rating: 5
    BAD COP NO DOUGHNUT!!

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    #2
    Senior Member

    A LITTLE MORE ON HR 1528

    "Simply put, there is no way H.R. 1528 can be fixed." Hmmm..........Yet another meek attempt of stripping our rights and simply put, this bill should be used to wipe my ass rather then pass into law.

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    #3
    Senior Member

    A LITTLE MORE ON HR 1528

    or used as kindling to burn Sensenbrenner at the stake
    BAD COP NO DOUGHNUT!!

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    #4
    Senior Member

    A LITTLE MORE ON HR 1528

    That is seriously sad.I would like to think that most families could work it out themselves,but my better judgement tells me that is not always the case.
    And neighbors spying and wires?! Good thing we bought the glock.

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    #5
    Senior Member

    A LITTLE MORE ON HR 1528

    If anybody comes around my house, I'll be waiting with thousands of rounds of ammo, for an SKS., and a bunch of traps all over the place. Well, bye-bye privacy and other rights, it was nice having them around for a while, and hello United Police States of America.

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    #6
    Senior Member

    A LITTLE MORE ON HR 1528

    I swear to God... if this law is passed, I'm moving out of the country. This is bullshit. I'm sick and tired of having my rights as a human being be stomped on for the so-called "War on Drugs".

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    #7
    Senior Member

    A LITTLE MORE ON HR 1528

    some bright minds posted here.
    \"even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value,marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.\"

    William F. Buckley Jr.

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    #8
    Senior Member

    A LITTLE MORE ON HR 1528

    everyday jungalist....you ain from bahamas by no chance eh?
    \"You know...it\'d be really swell if you could just shut the fuck up for a change\"


    Force is your only friend, fear is your only weapon and ignorance your only shield.~hempity (cannabis.com)

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