I was only following orders !

[Button Basher]

there shouldnt be any consequences for the people who are actually battling in this war for America.

Yes, those that are bravely battling. Not cowardly beating down prisoners when they are weak and powerless. Does it take more to be a soldier in the battlefield or in prison security?

Button Basher Reviewed by Button Basher on 05-19-2005. I was only following orders ! After hearing the arguments put forward by the people accused of abusing Iraqi "prisoners" at Abu Ghraib prison I believe I may well have heard their excuses before. Wasn't the defense of Nazi soldiers who carried out the hollocaust "I was only following orders" ? They should be locked up for the shit they did and be subjected to what they put others through, IMO. Any thoughts ?? Rating: 5

[amsterdam]

and the people responsible are in jail or going to jail(sadly)

[psychocat]

There really isn't any streight forward rules of war, or in war. Just because the Jeneva Convention is in place, do you think some of the soldiers are going to obay by that? There's allways going to be some torture during war times. War has been here sense the dawn of mankind, then torture probably came later. That's just my openion though. If anybody has something to say about it, then do so.

Rape and murder have been with us for centuries , does that mean we have to accept those things too ???
A so called civilised society that advocates cruelty and torture isn't that civilised now is it?

[amsterdam]

it wasnt cruel and it sure wasnt torture.

[easyg]

I couldn't help myself.....wasn't cruel!!!

begorrah....yr mommy and pappy sure brought you up to be a nice little boy didn't they

did they keep you in a cage in the coal house?

[pisshead]

yeah...i read the army's own 47 page report that was publicly released, and little reported...probably a year ago, maybe less...

they describe some pretty gruesome stuff...stuff you could only call torture.

but i guess saddam was only blowing off a little steam when he tortured too. it's all good.

[stoner spirit]

We don't have to except rape and murder, and even in a civilized society its gonna happen. Its not gonna go away any time soon.

[amsterdam]

i read the same stuff,nothing special.shit happens.

god forbid some people get their little feelings hurt.

[pisshead]

you're no more sick in the head than saddam if you read the army's 47 page report and agree with torture.

but it's okay...every major freedom spreading country or empire in history has done the same thing.

post a link to the report that you read.

[Psycho4Bud]

yeah...i read the army's own 47 page report that was publicly released, and little reported...probably a year ago, maybe less...

they describe some pretty gruesome stuff...stuff you could only call torture.

but i guess saddam was only blowing off a little steam when he tortured too. it's all good.

Could you show what "gruesome stuff" that the U.S. troops did? I've read and heard of such things as bambo shoots under the nails, cutting off of limbs, sleep deprovation, being made to eat and drink your own waste in order to survive...etc.

The U.S. and the coallition forces, due to smart technology, made one of the most "humane" invasion attacks in history but when a smart bomb goes off track and civilian lives are lost we are called baby killers. Why? As I recall, during WW2 the Nazi's were ruthless in the attacks on the Soviet Union and the Soviets returned that with just as much or more ruthlessness onto the Germans. Burning of entire towns and crops, raping of women and children, lining up all men for execution as to exterminate any thoughts of resistance. And how do the governments of the Middle East deal with such people that we "tortured". Beheadings, cutting off of limbs, possible retaliation on their families. Did we really step that far out of bounds considering the "form of justice" that the region practices. My God, we even honored the sanctity of the Mosques knowing full well that fighters and weapons were being stored in them! Alot of countries during a time of war would have made the Mosque into a pile of rubble with a "to bad so sad" attitude about it.

As I remember, Sadamm didn't hold too much faith in the so called Geneva Convention act when he invaded Kuwait. Looting hospitals of goods, leaving helpless babies to die...etc....

Please tell me where the U.S. drastically crossed lines in regards to Iraq. I've been reading all this bullshit as how the war was about our greed for oil. Seems funny that the last oil contract signed for new fields in the Kurdish sector was to a Canadian firm. If crooked politicians from other countries would have stood by the Food for Oil contracts as intended instead of lining their pockets with kickbacks maybe we wouldn't have had to take matters into our hands. Oh yah, the United Nations should have the say....so says Kerry and Klan. Now we find the nations that were against the war were dirty with kickbacks and higher ups in the U.N. aren't much better. Due to their "Sadamm backing" how many thousands of Shiites and Kurds lost their lives? How many acts of torture was Sadamm able to achieve due to the help of these pissant countries? How many school girls was Sadamms boys able to rape due to this?

Now honestly sit down and look at past war history and the coruption of the U.N. system as it played out and tell me what horrible acts of torture the U.S. committed.

P.S. If you respond, Please, don't be from France....you government done enough!!!