well Stoned 1 i thank you for that advice....But my delemma is this ...ive sank all the money i can for right now on all the supplys for this grow....lights soil ferts seeds u know the rap....im not sure what kinda fixture those bulbs u mentioned needs but im on compacts now witch have so far made me some nice compact smelly plants....as far as the flowering now thing my breeder and many others say vegg the other 30 days b.c there barely a foot tall now.....thanks for your imput tho = ) and thanks for viewing the PPP Journal