those two scam site you talk about aint always right you know...i use to be on there and was removed....now one knows why i was on there cause everyone iv ever done business with was happy,but my email address was on there once and i went there the week later and it was gone...people must have spoken up...im not saying this scam sites are bad but sometimes the good guy gets put on there cause of some jealous asshole and say shit about you and your on a scam site...so dont alway beleave what you see...

just my two cents worth

take care everyone
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