new guy wth LED/tent ?

[onedog]

Hello. New guy here. Any LED folks here? Just ordered a G8-900w led light. Also gotta 5x5 tent coming. The 900 watter is rated to be sufficient lighting coverage for 25 sq ft. And the equivalent to 1400/1600 HPS. Seem reasonable? I want to determine if I should exchange the 5x5 for a 4x4 if that is a more effective grow space for the 900 watt LED.

thanks for any expertise here

onedog Reviewed by onedog on 01-18-2014. new guy wth LED/tent ? Hello. New guy here. Any LED folks here? Just ordered a G8-900w led light. Also gotta 5x5 tent coming. The 900 watter is rated to be sufficient lighting coverage for 25 sq ft. And the equivalent to 1400/1600 HPS. Seem reasonable? I want to determine if I should exchange the 5x5 for a 4x4 if that is a more effective grow space for the 900 watt LED. thanks for any expertise here Rating: 5

[OMB]

There is an expert who will probably be along shortly...but here's some reading material until he gets here.

http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-li...ut-please.html

[Weezard]

There is an expert who will probably be along shortly...but here's some reading material until he gets here.

http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-li...ut-please.html

An expert!?
Excellent!
Can't hardly wait.

Aloha,
Weezard

[OMB]

An expert!?
Excellent!
Can't hardly wait.

Aloha,
Weezard

You know I was referring to you...:thumbsup:

[Weezard]

Oh the pressure!

Seriously guys, I'm no expert on anything.
Just another "guy on the internet".
I can offer personal experience, and a little science.

That's why I held off.
I've got to be honest about it.
And the OP is not going to like that.
Hope he can get a refund.

I personally, would not use G8 arrays.

Here are the specs on their "900 Watt" lamp.
Power Draw 540W.
That includes the fans.

Now, that is a lot of led light, but they spread it over 8 bands and that includes worthless IR, and UV.
They withheld information about the wavelengths and their ratios, but I'm guessing they include 720nm. that come on at the same time as the rest of the leds.
Useless when used like that!

An honest 900Watts just might be equivalent to a 1400 W. HPS.
If they used 2 or 4 bands, all in the most efficient frequencies.

Then they want you to purchase an all red, way overpriced UFO, from them in order to flower? WTF?

Sorry Onedog, but I calls 'em the way I sees 'em.

Aloha,
Weezard

[onedog]

Thanks Weezard thats what im lookin for. G8 gets really good reviews from what I've seen so im a little surprised at what you say. Seems to me I read that they were concentrated in the right wavelengths and only supplementing with some others for a good efficient balance. They claim IR is good for stem growth.
Looks like they're one of the top rated companies and crap...it's 2014 and i'm expecting the science to be dialed in (by top brands) and the BS eliminated.
But I'm not married to this thing yet. In fact they delivered the wrong unit and i can cancel before the swap (even then I got 90 days).
Got any suggestions for honest efficient one's. Goin a few extra bux is worth it in the long haul.
How bout the 5x5 25 sq ft thing?

thanks

[budbro28]

i use there lights in a 3x3 and my plants WERE looking great till i fucking ruined em....i got the "useless' g8 240 watt FULL SPECTRUM....i think its one of those different strokes for different folks....i heard the busy bee LEDs are not bad, but im a chump noob with no said experience. :twocents:
but id take Weez's advice his pictures and post are proof in its self he knows what hes talking about:thumbsup:

[Weezard]

Thanks Weezard thats what im lookin for. G8 gets really good reviews from what I've seen so im a little surprised at what you say.

If you really dig, you may find that they write most of those reviews.
Read through them again.
Watch the syntax closely.



Seems to me I read that they were concentrated in the right wavelengths and only supplementing with some others for a good efficient balance. They claim IR is good for stem growth.

Stem growth, yes.
But, What does that mean?
If you want long, skinny, plants, hit them with IR and some deep red.
Anything below 720nm. signals Cannabis seedlings that the need to stretch and out-grow the competition.
This they do at some expense.
Uses up a lot of the early energy.
Sucks the cotyledons dry.
They will never get very bushy after that.

G8 appears to be a sham.
Glad to hear that you are in a negotiation position
And I will be happily surprise if you get a no-hassle refund.

Looks like they're one of the top rated companies and crap...it's 2014 and i'm expecting the science to be dialed in (by top brands) and the BS eliminated.
But I'm not married to this thing yet. In fact they delivered the wrong unit and i can cancel before the swap (even then I got 90 days).
Got any suggestions for honest efficient one's. Goin a few extra bux is worth it in the long haul.
How bout the 5x5 25 sq ft thing?

"top rated companies"
"they delivered the wrong unit"

Cognitive dissonance, yah?


thanks

Actually a good light should cost considerably less.
Are you up to building your own?
It's easier than you might think.

If not, I'll root about in the latest offerings and see if I can spot an honest vendor for ya.
My lights are still working extremely well and I am vegging 14 plants of varying size in a 2' X 4' cabinet with ~100 watts.
So, I haven't been shopping for quite a while.

With a good 500W. array, you can grow the shit out of 25 sq feet!
1K of decent leds would be serious overkill for veg.

I don't ask much, of a vendor but lack of integrity and fudging of facts is a deal breaker.
I'll get back to ya when I find something.

This could take a while to do properly, I've got the flu and consequently, I have the "dumb."
Not even sure this makes sense.
I'll re-read later.

Aloha,
Weeze

[tlranger]

I'll get back to ya when I find something.

This could take a while to do properly, I've got the flu and consequently, I have the "dumb."

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Take care and get better, but please remember this, am sure others besides me are very interested.

Building your own is easy, have some where to point me to.

[Weezard]

Here's a start:

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