Anyone want to help two beginners?

[tlranger]

Just doing exactly what some guy on the net tell you to, teaches very little.

Aloha,
Weezard

But then you learn from your mistakes, and probably remember the info better.
Plus what don't kill you, makes you stronger.
Learn by doing, experience is the best teacher.

But seriously, gimme two steps, and that two steps can be a little education, being unsuccessful is indeed a bummer and discouraging. There's allot to learn around here, and its free for the reading!