If you want quality, but cheap, go with the pro-mix organic. Your not paying for advertising crap. They have a standard mix, which is only pHballanced spaghnum moss & perlite, no nutes. Great as a mix base for those who like to mix their own, or add all the nutes themselves, but I use & recommended pro-mix organics. Great organics, makes happy plants. I don't use nutes for quite a few weeks. The plant will tell you when its time. They start to get pale. Ocean forest is expensive, but its worth getting a small bag to mix into the pro-mix organic for the last transplant. What ever nute I use, I always start my plants at only 1/2 strength till they're used to it. Better safe than sorry, nute burn can be nasty.