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[OMB]

I wonder if anyone has ever tried laying a branch down on the dirt and clipping it there til the roots growâ?¦..that is how I propagate hydrangeasâ?¦.
I know it's easier to take cuttings but it sounds like a fun experimentâ?¦.

I am all about simplifying my life right now, :stoned:...I may try that!

[crystaliscious]

I just take a branch and bend it towards the dirt then use a hair pin to clip in into the dirt- it grows into a new plant then I clip it off the mother….
My granny taught me this...

[OMB]

I just take a branch and bend it towards the dirt then use a hair pin to clip in into the dirt- it grows into a new plant then I clip it off the motherâ?¦.
My granny taught me this...

Like a Banyon tree...Cool!

[budbro28]

everyday i get mind blown by the new shit i read or find out from you fellow heads...its crazy...well i used distilled water...hopefully it works....now this is where i want to get back on the topic of water....people say dont use tap...people say dont use distilled....so which is the BEST all around to use....i was using tap water letting it sit out...but people told me this did nothing....now i get other advice so im torn....all of the cuttings look great... from what i can see...so fingers still crossed.

[tlranger]

Weez has some cool air layering pictures!! Doing some numbers might be tougher.

[d00g]

I know people have mentioned that the chlorination of tap water will help fight negative things that can happen in your soil but I believe the PH is more likely to be in a wider range, so you must test religiously. When you use distilled water, it does not have that chlorination, so you are more likely to have to add things such as Cal-Mag. I, myself, (I believe) experienced that issue from using reverse osmosis water with a calcium deficiency that I was able to correct and hopefully there's no damage. The distilled water is more likely to have consistent PH from jug to jug.

As long as you are testing your PH, not adding too many nutrients to the water, and watching your plants for ill effects, I think you can be successful with any water.

[budbro28]

well i checked the ladies for the first time today and did a little more pruning of the dead and dying leaves...they honestly dont look to bad after cutting the bad leaves away...i mean dont get me wrong they look like shit but not to bad lol....if that makes any sense...the bud sites do show some nice light green new growth...and catbuds...on the plant i tested the flush with...has showed significant signs of lightening up in color ( alot of people said that she was a little to dark of a green color) well after that flush i woke up to the leaves on the top buds a lot lighter... i will post pictures when i get home later this afternoon

[Chromophore]

I agree with OMB that we probably make more fuss out of cloning than we need to. The air in my region is bone dry, so I tend to be very protective of my clones because the dryness is such a stress. I also do believe that intense light is a bad idea right away. The cutting is trying to deal with a lot of new problems and does not have the metabolic flux to handle high light levels. Filtered or shaded light for at least the first few days, then if they're still upright and healthy you can start to give them more. Cervantes also believes in giving plants nutes through the end of flowering, so he obviously has ideas that don't line up with a lot of other people. But as OMB and I have discussed, the best thing to do is experiment. Put some in distilled water, some in tap, and some in pH 5.5 water with 1/50th diluted nutes (the method I use). Put some under bright light and some under filtered, etc. It's the only way to know what really works for your situation. I am now 12 for 14 for my Cannabis clones, which I suppose is pretty good, but obviously my method isn't fool-proof.

[Weezard]

I know people have mentioned that the chlorination of tap water will help fight negative things that can happen in your soil but I believe the PH is more likely to be in a wider range, so you must test religiously.

Chloramine is used in miniscule amounts and has absolutely no effect on PH.
All it does is keep the bad bugs at bay.

When you use distilled water, it does not have that chlorination,

Or trace elements!

so you are more likely to have to add things such as Cal-Mag. I, myself, (I believe) experienced that issue from using reverse osmosis water with a calcium deficiency that I was able to correct and hopefully there's no damage. The distilled water is more likely to have consistent PH from jug to jug.

Um, no! See below.
I'm not a real grower, but this stuff I know.
I'm kind of a science dick.

As long as you are testing your PH, not adding too many nutrients to the water, and watching your plants for ill effects, I think you can be successful with any water.

The last line is spot on!

But, here's some science:

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4 cuttings.
On the right, rainwater, on the left fresh from the tap.
End pic, tapwater in front, rainwater in back.
Draw your own conclusions.
Or, better yet, run your own test.


"The distilled water is more likely to have consistent PH from jug to jug.
As long as you are testing your PH, not adding too many nutrients to the water, and watching your plants for ill effects, I think you can be successful with any water." --D00g

Thought I'd mention here that in distilled and R.O water, PH is meaningless.
PH reads Potential Hydrogen.
Without free ions, there is no PH.
So, add the ferts and amendment and then test.
You will also find the the airstone causes a transitory lowering of the PH caused by dissolved CO₂

Testing and experiments.
It's what I do.

Aloha,
Weezard

[OMB]

I'm one of those people that tend to overthink, then "overdo" everything. Lol...Hence why I have 5 fans and two kinds of lights in my 2 story, air exchanging cabinet.
...and the fussing I did over Cuttings! Kinda silly in retrospect. :stoned:
Anyway, I experimented....What the hell I figured, got plenty of cuttings to play with. I no longer mess with the top's, I only use the "twigs" from below. They are hardier, they root faster, and they seem to stay shorter if you don't stretch them.
I use tapwater that sits for at least 12 hours and I have no idea what the PH is. The Happy frog and the Black hills Gold I have used, combined with my tapwater show PH on my crappy little meter at about 6.5-6.8. Temps? From about 70-85.
Molly coddled?...Not anymore. Here's some mist twice a day, a touch of Grow Big and you are on your own little cuttings.
After they grow roots I up pot 2x's during Veg, wack the heads off at 30 day's and chuck 'em into flower.
Give them fresh air, circulate it and don't over water. I keep my little Ladybug Army on patrol and kill anything that dare's to show itself in my cabinet.
Probably going to make a few of the real Horticulterists cringe, but it seems to work for me. My current one's will tell the tale, we shall see if I have the quality I am looking for with my methods.