Thank you so much, just to hear a kind word at this time is a real lift. I have seriously been giving some thought to the start over idea, but it is one of the hardest decisions to make, as I'm sure you and everyone knows. I've done a lot of reading about spider-mites, but still can't find any that look like what I've got. It would be wonderful to at least know what I've got, it'll give me an idea on what to throw at them if I were to continue the fight. My check this morning revealed another disturbing thing. One plants flowers have all turned brown, basically overnight. Do you think I'm about to battle with a hermie hiding in the bud room???? I think somewhere in the distance, sadly I can hear the fat lady beginning to sing...