Will 150w HPS outperform 372w of T5HO?

[tlranger]

I'm curious what you and everyone else thinks about taking clones off of a flowering plant.

It's very difficult.

[OMB]

OMB this is a bit off topic but we keep coming back to this...of my 5 recent clones, only 1 survived. I threw out 4 of them today. The leaves showed some damping off so I pulled them out of the rockwool and the stems were soft and grey I think the place I had them was too cold. Also I didn't position a node properly so that it was down in the wool. Anyway, the point being that I'm going to take new ones today and I'm going to try your twig method. But while I'm on this topic, I'm curious what you and everyone else thinks about taking clones off of a flowering plant. Have you done it? Is there a trick to getting it to work?

You can do it Chromophore. The original Mother of my plants was cloned 4 weeks into Veg. The individual cuts were done like any other, but each one was bagged/domed individually. Took 3 "twig" cuts and all (eventually) rooted and returned to veg. The Mama plant I have is one of those 3. The rooting period was long though, like 3 weeks.
I believe they were hardy enough to root and turn due to the location of the cuttings. Note These were in soil though,and just kept moist with misting.

I think I know what you have in mind and that one is pretty far along, but give it a shot! Not much to lose and experimenting is good. :thumbsup:

[Chromophore]

Thanks OMB, I'm going to give it a try. I read some old threads here regarding this topic and it sounds like it can work, but often the time required to return to veg is quite long. As I'm at week 7, that's really pushing it. I've got a lot of small twiggy buds low in the canopy of that plant. I'm thinking maybe I should clip off the buds themselves and just leave the crown and a fan leaf or two. I'll experiment.

[OMB]

Kinda off topic, but I just like growing stuff! It started when I was just a kid. Alway's had my own little vegetable patch, then it faded as I got older....You know, girls, baseball, etc.
I'm glad I did this....It makes me feel good watching my plants and fussing over them, I love the whole process, I dare say it makes me happy.
I think the whole grow thing is therapeutic for some people,(me for example) as I find it calming. I'm a high strung kinda guy, so anything that takes me down a notch is good!
I do tend to get overly focused on whatever my current interest is though.....Hmmmm, might need to medicate for that. :jointsmile:
I'm glad I hung with this forum....a little "touch and go" at first, but some great people here and I'm glad to be a part of it. So happy growing all!....enjoy the trip, getting there is half the fun.

[Chromophore]

ditto.

[catbuds]

Cloning from a flowering plant can be very slow & not always successful. Doesn't mean it can't be worth your time. Sometimes you just don't have a choice if you have something you want to perpetuate but didn't know that untill she flowered. This is a case where you'll want humidomes for sure. Misting & checking often. Carefull of excess moisture though, misting while the dome is off & replacing it after the moisture has evaporated. I like doing it this way because it ensures she gets several good air exchanges a day. I wasn't satisfied with the regular spray bottles, so what I ended up with is a 'misty mate' personal mister. Its a much finer mist than you can get with a spray bottle, its more like fog. No water droplets at all. I mist around my space heaters when it gets uncomfortably dry in here too. Its a tiny pump up compression sprayer with a fog nozzle. Sometimes I even use it for its intended purpose! Ha! Don't foliar feed with one though, they WILL clog, can't unclog them so they're shot. But houses get DRY when the heat comes on & only cacti like that shit. My rule of thumb (or maybe nose). If the air is dry enough to make my nose bleed, its PAST time to mist the plants! So play around with cloning guys. Just remember, slow & not always successful from a mom in flower, and... if your heat is on for the winter, know that the air is DRYYYYY....

[OMB]

Hmmmm....I am slightly concerned. Sugar leaves on the T5 buds turning purple on the edges and stiffening, or dying. The Trichomes along the tips and edges appear to be dying as well.
They kind of turn black along the edges. Some milky Trichomes on most buds...or what appears to me to be milky, but I was going to give them until next weekend.
Uh oh...normal?


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[catbuds]

Not a bag thing at all. They can turn a rainbow of colors. It indicates stored energies being used up. Exhausting certain nutes will change certain colors. (In your case, I believe phosphorus) they're doing their job, supplying nutes to the buds for the final finale. That also tells you the stored nutes are being used up so you don't taste them in your smoke!
-- I've read Pappapain's alert on my gmail, but haven't clicked onto his post yet. If you haven't been there yet, GO! Awesome pics, awesome grow, & his girls are turning purple. I'm getting ready to click over & have a look myself. (Soldiers co-op grow).

[tlranger]

Your getting there!!

[OMB]

Hmmm.....maybe I'm not understanding how "milky" they should be to be done? If they are just "Opaque", is that milky?? If they aren't clear anymore?
...or are we talking "Milk" color? Maybe the stiffing of the sugar leaf edges and the dying of those Trichs is telling me they are done?
Hmmm....going to take a good look tonight, I hope they are done....it's getting crowded in there.