OMB this is a bit off topic but we keep coming back to this...of my 5 recent clones, only 1 survived. I threw out 4 of them today. The leaves showed some damping off so I pulled them out of the rockwool and the stems were soft and grey I think the place I had them was too cold. Also I didn't position a node properly so that it was down in the wool. Anyway, the point being that I'm going to take new ones today and I'm going to try your twig method. But while I'm on this topic, I'm curious what you and everyone else thinks about taking clones off of a flowering plant. Have you done it? Is there a trick to getting it to work?