Soldiers Co OP Led Test grow

[Chromophore]

ranger that makes sense. One reason cutting nutes at the end makes a kind of sense to me is that the plant is essentially dying anyway. It's trying desperately to reproduce before it's ghost is given up. So cutting nutes may accelerate that process, and in doing so increase trichome production as the desperation intensifies. Just a thought.

[papapayne]

Papapayne next time around I want to work on making my own soil. I'll undoubtedly be peppering you with questions.

To be honest, you should start making the soil now. Organic soil needs a little bit longer to break down and "cook". A MUST READ is TGA subcools guide to super soil. He has it in hightimes and all over the internet. Its the definitive hands down best soil to make for beginners and is very clear and concise. If you cant find it I can get you a link. And I am happy to answer any questions

Foxfarms is mostly a chemical type nute especially all the extra additives that their line up they has. Its a great product though and is used with great success by many growers. With organic living soil you feed the soil biology not the plant. That's the main difference, at least to me. So like I make 2 batches of compost tea a week. one for flower and one for both veg and flower. Both batches get earthworm castings, molasses, catalyst by earth juice, and depending on which batch making, either fossilized bat or fruit bat guano, and either fish meal or kelp meal this is then aerated 48 hours with water pumps. It costs about 40 bucks to get the bucket and pumps and like 100-150 bucks to get the supplies to actually make compost tea, but that same 150 bucks invested has lasted me 3 flower cycles (big plant counts to, each plant gets a gallon of tea and 9 months worth of veg time now.

[Chromophore]

Great info. Thanks Papapayne.

[papapayne]

ranger that makes sense. One reason cutting nutes at the end makes a kind of sense to me is that the plant is essentially dying anyway. It's trying desperately to reproduce before it's ghost is given up. So cutting nutes may accelerate that process, and in doing so increase trichome production as the desperation intensifies. Just a thought.

One might also say imagine the production it would have done if it had all the available resources. part of it honestly is know the strain your running and know how to read plants. Usually it takes a good 2 runs of the same cutting before you really know the plant well and can push it to the max. One thing I have done and do usually that IDK if its a myth or not, I have heard it for ages as I am sure you have to, but at the VERY end of the cycle, I leave the lights off for 3 days before I chop and stop watering those last days as well. The claim is 3 days of darkness is just the right amount of shock at the end to get the "dying push" so to speak. Also if you dont water before u chop less likely to mold when drying.

[OMB]

9 months in Veg?! Damn....You are a patient man. Really nice plants papayne, I think we are all thinking the same thing. :jawdropper:

[OMB]

[quote=papapayne]that also is common sense to think about. Leaves are solar panels basically...the more light they get the more energy the get thus the more energy they have to function. QUOTE]

That's the part I don't get....if the Leaf gets more light, it gets more energy. If it get's more energy, there should be less drain. If their is less drain, the Leaf should stay green longer.
(in my mind anyway). So if I have 372 watts of T5, and 150 watts of HPS, the HPS by reason should Yellow first.
Damn my questioning mind.......are they done yet? :jointsmile:

[Weezard]

ranger that makes sense. One reason cutting nutes at the end makes a kind of sense to me is that the plant is essentially dying anyway. It's trying desperately to reproduce before it's ghost is given up. So cutting nutes may accelerate that process, and in doing so increase trichome production as the desperation intensifies. Just a thought.

Hold that thought.

Might be worth trying in a side by side experiment, yah?
Then we all know more.

Aloha,
Weeze

[Chromophore]

That's the part I don't get....if the Leaf gets more light, it gets more energy. If it get's more energy, there should be less drain. If their is less drain, the Leaf should stay green longer.
(in my mind anyway). So if I have 372 watts of T5, and 150 watts of HPS, the HPS by reason should Yellow first.
Damn my questioning mind.......are they done yet? :jointsmile:

You may have answered your own question. The one receiving more light, thus more energy may simply be developing faster. It reached a natural part of the flowering cycle before the HPS plants.

[OMB]

Thanks chromo, makes perfect sense.
Sometimes I can't see the forest for the Tree's...

[papapayne]

9 months in Veg?! Damn....You are a patient man. Really nice plants papayne, I think we are all thinking the same thing. :jawdropper:

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lol no no not the same plants for 9 months, just been using the same group of compost tea materials for 9 months. I still have 1/2 the bag of earth worm castings and maybe 1/4 each of bat shit. The catalyst and molasses go quicker, but those are cheap to buy.

but yea, growing does take patience. And honestly, patience isnt one of my virtues. My first few harvest I chopped early, dried to quick, jared to quick, and ended up with the usual blackmarket shit I see on the street, not cured right, little to wet, not quite chronic, smelling of pine and hay. Now I wait till i think they are done and add another 2 weeks and when drying, when I think its dry I give it 2 more days etc. Takes longer but anyone that gets meds from me always comes back begging to get into the collective lol.