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    #1
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    Hello to all and I hope this gets seen by one of the senior members of this forum. I have read through a lot of posts and I am particularly understanding about certain methods mentioned here.

    I am literally confused by which times to use "void urine" and how to start the dilution process.
    I am confused about what qualifies as part of the substitution is it somebody else's urine is it using a product like Qcarbo 32 or both?
    I would like to have some of detailed plain as day in any reply here are the options that I have:

    I got the call yesterday to come in for a physical on Monday at 9:30 a.m.
    I have not smoked in about a week and a half two weeks I am a medium smoker due to me quitting to take a drug test earlier in the year that I passed in July

    I have access to q carbo I have access to water and I have been reading about CERTO on this forum so I'm sure I can find it in a store
    at what time do I use q carbo?
    at what instance do I start the dilution method and I have read the post for dilution but its comforting if somebody can explain steps a little clearer.
    I also have someones clean piss that I can have in the morning from my house to the actual test site which takes about an hour to get to
    how long will it stay warm enough????
    do I need something that will keep the temperature if it only takes me about an hour to get the fresh sample which by the way I have blood vials that I can keep it in?

    I quit smoking for 6 months from mid Jan to mid July..to take the drug test when I thought I would be hired the first time.I now have to go through agency to get in and take the drug test for them.

    new york-presbyterian is the hospital I am going to be employed and an agency is staffing me to them.
    HhhheellLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPP PLEEEEEEASEEE

    they will be conducting a test Monday October 28
    Ovaflo Reviewed by Ovaflo on . I NEEEEEEEEED THIS JOB!. Hello to all and I hope this gets seen by one of the senior members of this forum. I have read through a lot of posts and I am particularly understanding about certain methods mentioned here. I am literally confused by which times to use "void urine" and how to start the dilution process. I am confused about what qualifies as part of the substitution is it somebody else's urine is it using a product like Qcarbo 32 or both? I would like to have some of detailed plain as day in any reply Rating: 5

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    #2
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    First of all, forget the magic "detox" potions. They are nothing but a big scam to seperate the credulous from their cash. When they do work at all, they "work" by diluting. They do not rid the body of THC, as the sales pitches would like the consumer to believe. You can accomplish the same thing for $$$ less by following the steps outlined in the Dilution "sticky" thread.

    Certo is an ancient myth. The people who claim to have passed using Certo were also drinking copius amounts of water, which is - youve guessed it - diluting. These people wouldve passed anyway just on the water consumption alone and without the nasty Certo to go with it.

    As far as when to start diluting, this is all outlined in the Dilution "sticky" thread.

    I also have someones clean piss that I can have in the morning from my house to the actual test site which takes about an hour to get to
    how long will it stay warm enough????
    do I need something that will keep the temperature if it only takes me about an hour to get the fresh sample which by the way I have blood vials that I can keep it in?
    Conducting practice drills will answer both of these questions. Practice is the key to pulling off a successful sub.

    Instead of empty blood vials, use a travel-size shampoo bottle instead with a minimum size of 2 ounces. You can find these sold empty at your local Walmart. Follow the steps outlined in the Substitution "sticky" thread.

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    #3
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    Thank you for replying I hope you stay current at least for this weekend as I'm a little paranoid and I should just listen to the steps in the thread but I find them hard to follow when it comes to the dilution one.

    I will look at the substitution one as you said. how was another question about actually drinking water the day off yes I understand that it may give a reading of diluted or it will fall below a certain creatine grade or will be so less gravity that they cannot pick up any actual trace of urine.

    however does anybody know how much water is just enough so that it will be able to flush out right then and there the thca just long enough to pass the test?

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    #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovaflo
    Thank you for replying I hope you stay current at least for this weekend as I'm a little paranoid and I should just listen to the steps in the thread but I find them hard to follow when it comes to the dilution one.
    Which steps are the ones thats giving you fits? Please go to the Dilution sticky and copy/paste the steps thats giving you problems.

    I will look at the substitution one as you said. how was another question about actually drinking water the day off yes I understand that it may give a reading of diluted or it will fall below a certain creatine grade or will be so less gravity that they cannot pick up any actual trace of urine.
    Huh? Please rephrase your question and include the appropriate punctuation, so I can better understand your question and provide the assistance for you.

    however does anybody know how much water is just enough so that it will be able to flush out right then and there the thca just long enough to pass the test?
    Nobody can answer that question for you because it depends on how much THCA is in your system - and you will not know this without running a quantitative analysis on your urine sample. A GC/MS test would be used for this purpose.

    It must be understood that dilution techniques (whether its the N2 method, detox potion, certo, etc) can backfire if the THCA concentration in the bladder is too high. For many daily users, it would be virtually impossible to dilute that concentration enough without sending the creatinine and S/G into a downward spiral and sending up the red flags at the lab.

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    #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnt Toast
    Which steps are the ones thats giving you fits? Please go to the Dilution sticky and copy/paste the steps thats giving you fits.

    Step 4. 1-2 hours before the test, take vitamin B2 or B complex (about 10 times the daily recommended dosage). If the vitamins are time release, crush them before taking. You may also take vitamin B with each glass of water, 2 times the daily dosage, if you find it easier.

    What am i doing when im voiding clear urine and what if I can't keep pissing while I'm on my way there how do I know when to stop and hold it to have that be the sample I give during the test?
    why am I fighting for it to be yellow with vitamin b? what is the daily recommended dosage for vitamin B? (I used to work in GNC and don't remember anything don't judge me)
    Is it that they need to see it as yellowish before they even analyze it are they going to do and Eye test before the analysis?

    Step 3. In about 1 - 2 hours (depending on your system) you should be voiding ‘clear’ urine about every 15 - 20 minutes. Continue to drink 3-4 oz. more water to replace what you've voided every 20-30 minutes.
    What am i doing when im voiding urine?
    When should I stop pissing and hold to take to the test?
    If I was to use a substitute during this process for the water could it be Gatorade and or a drink like Qcarbo even though you mentioned it doesn't work but would it help at that closest point to the test?
    And I also have a pack of a GNC fiber and prebiotic blend. It comes from a complete body cleansing 7 day product I used with success earlier this year to pass a test for drugs that I took in July.

    its instructs to add contents of the packet to 4 to 6 ounces of water or juice during breakfast...would it hurt or help to add fiber to the cause?and
    IF it helps when would be the best time to add it?
    Earlier in the 12 hours that I'm starting the diluting process ?
    or could I mix it with the glasses of water I'm drinking with the vitamin B?
    should I be eating this morning of the test should I eat the night before?

    Huh? Please rephrase your question and include the appropriate punctuation, so I can better understand your question and provide the assistance for you.

    I had rephrase that:this was your answer to my correction which was fine. But I'm sorry you're right I'm the one that wants to help I should be more clear.
    Nobody can answer that question for you because it depends on how much THCA is in your system - and you will not know this without running a quantitative analysis on your urine sample. A GC/MS test would be used for this purpose.

    It must be understood that dilution techniques (whether its the N2 method, detox potion, certo, etc) can backfire if the THCA concentration in the bladder is too high. For many daily users, it would be virtually impossible to dilute that concentration enough without sending the creatinine and S/G into a downward spiral and sending up the red flags at the lab.
    Should I eat before the test should I eat in the morning of? evening before? is i't left out of the question?
    12 hours when I start diluting that's the benchmark right? I'm pretty confident dilution will work for me because I have only smoked seven times this month and probably no more than 20 times this whole year. and I passed my last drug test in July from straight abstinence after a cleanse in February.

    I'm just trying to do what I can to make sure that smoking in this month will not be what fails me in this testing..I have not even smoked in the last week and a half two weeks.

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    #6
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    I'll try to answer some of the questions that I can understand. Youve spliced your responses within my quote above, making it very difficult for me to understand the rest of your other questions.

    what is the daily recommended dosage for vitamin B? (I used to work in GNC and don't remember anything don't judge me)
    Is it that they need to see it as yellowish before they even analyze it are they going to do and Eye test before the analysis?
    There is no "eye test". They will only test the urine.

    The proper vitamin for urine color is B2 (Riboflavin). But it must be understood that creatinine and S/G checks have become lab SOP in recent years, making sample "color" the least aspect in determining overdilution. Even samples with a nice yellow color to them can still exhibit an unsatisfactory S/G and creatinine level. Therefore, when doing dilution techniques, it is now more important to make sure the creatinine and S/G are satisfactory. N2's thread states what to do to help keep the creatinine and S/G cops at bay.

    If I was to use a substitute during this process for the water could it be Gatorade and or a drink like Qcarbo even though you mentioned it doesn't work but would it help at that closest point to the test?
    No the detox potion will not help. Sure the sales pitches will tell you that their snake oil "contains creatine". What they dont tell you (perhaps in an effort to avoid blowing a sale) is that it takes 2-3 days for the body to metabolize creatine into creatinine. Creatinine is the end waste product thats found in urine and tested for at the labs. Therefore, any creatine-loading must be done at least 3 days before the scheduled U/A.

    Thats yet another reason why those detox potions are a scam.

    Use the gatorade in place of water, as it will help in the S/G department.

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    #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnt Toast
    I'll try to answer some of the questions that I can understand. Youve spliced your responses within my quote above, making it very difficult for me to understand the rest of your other questions.

    There is no "eye test". They will only test the urine.

    The proper vitamin for urine color is B2 (Riboflavin). But it must be understood that creatinine and S/G checks have become lab SOP in recent years, making sample "color" the least aspect in determining overdilution. Even samples with a nice yellow color to them can still exhibit an unsatisfactory S/G and creatinine level. Therefore, when doing dilution techniques, it is now more important to make sure the creatinine and S/G are satisfactory. N2's thread states what to do to help keep the creatinine and S/G cops at bay.

    No the detox potion will not help. Sure the sales pitches will tell you that their snake oil "contains creatine". What they dont tell you (perhaps in an effort to avoid blowing a sale) is that it takes 2-3 days for the body to metabolize creatine into creatinine. Creatinine is the end waste product thats found in urine and tested for at the labs. Therefore, any creatine-loading must be done at least 3 days before the scheduled U/A.

    Thats yet another reason why those detox potions are a scam.

    Use the gatorade in place of water, as it will help in the S/G department.
    I guess I don't get this quote thing. everything that has a? Are the questions that I'm asking you there the ones that you didn't write. I don't know how to separate them so can you please help me by answering them.

    I'm also asking about introducing fiber into the steps for dilution as far as what I can mix with water how does a prebiotic Fiberblend help me if I introduce it at any stage in the dilution

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