Ok so wow!! Ya!! I posted a problem that almost did and easily could have wiped out my whole grow, now over a wk ago and have repeatedly asked for help and didnt get a single responce so I took someones advice and went to ic mag cuz I needed to find my problem before it was too late and I wasnt getting help here!! So anyways within the first day I had 12 responces... we wound up gettin all settled but really!! Should I really have to do all that!!?!? Anyway for anyone else here who actually needs help ic mag is an amazing forum to join where tons of people care and actually WILL HELP!! just trying to help out some fellow growers:thumbsup: